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Can primers reduce E.S.?
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<blockquote data-quote="BountyHunter" data-source="post: 875661" data-attributes="member: 12"><p>I love new technology and I am probably one of the first to look to get and use especially IF it checks out. Probably spent 2-3x of anyone else here buying and testing new things. </p><p> </p><p>I have Q load and use it to validate some things. However, I learned its limitations first by spending several hours a day over a couple weeks with the techs learning how they derived their algorithms by testing only standard SAAMI chambers and twists and what it really can do and cannot do and how to try and make it work best for what I was looking for! I even ran some of my loads tested with strain gauges against what Q load said and they is why I view it no better than a computerized reloading manual in reality. ie start 10% below and work up.</p><p> </p><p>It is often not just that the user is inept either as you state. It is the fact that too many think Q load is "THE answer and manna from heaven". </p><p> </p><p>I have seen Q load touted here especially, as the "know all, end all" to especially novice reloaders as the "definitive answer", not a tool. You have supposed competent reloaders and smiths here posting print screens of what someone's PSI will be or is and they do not have a clue what the chamber dimensions are, how far off the lands etc etc. but Q load says...... so it must be gospel.</p><p> </p><p>I have personally seen the same Q load disciples provide given "recommended loads" to a new shooter that locked up a gun tighter than a jug, because difference in chambers, air density, temp and what ever else, but Q load said it was good to go.</p><p> </p><p>It cannot tell you what the pressure will really be by changing primers etc BEFOREHAND for example and Q load did not even test for that.</p><p> </p><p>You are right it is only a tool, and not an end all as too many people try to make it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BountyHunter, post: 875661, member: 12"] I love new technology and I am probably one of the first to look to get and use especially IF it checks out. Probably spent 2-3x of anyone else here buying and testing new things. I have Q load and use it to validate some things. However, I learned its limitations first by spending several hours a day over a couple weeks with the techs learning how they derived their algorithms by testing only standard SAAMI chambers and twists and what it really can do and cannot do and how to try and make it work best for what I was looking for! I even ran some of my loads tested with strain gauges against what Q load said and they is why I view it no better than a computerized reloading manual in reality. ie start 10% below and work up. It is often not just that the user is inept either as you state. It is the fact that too many think Q load is "THE answer and manna from heaven". I have seen Q load touted here especially, as the "know all, end all" to especially novice reloaders as the "definitive answer", not a tool. You have supposed competent reloaders and smiths here posting print screens of what someone's PSI will be or is and they do not have a clue what the chamber dimensions are, how far off the lands etc etc. but Q load says...... so it must be gospel. I have personally seen the same Q load disciples provide given "recommended loads" to a new shooter that locked up a gun tighter than a jug, because difference in chambers, air density, temp and what ever else, but Q load said it was good to go. It cannot tell you what the pressure will really be by changing primers etc BEFOREHAND for example and Q load did not even test for that. You are right it is only a tool, and not an end all as too many people try to make it. [/QUOTE]
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