Bullet design pros and cons

[6mm06guy]

Good morning gents, I'm in the process of purchasing dies presses and everything I need to make my own bullets from scratch, I. Sure it will have a steap learning curve, but when the major manufacturers don't make what you want.....
So the Corbin dies I'm ordering have a related boat tail design. I'd like to get your guys opinion on that boat tail and the uld tips they offer. I'm looking for as much real world experience as I can get.

Does anyone know if I can still order j4 jackets from berger? I haven't had a chance to look yet.

And lastly I would love to color code the tips of my bullets like nosler, just for the ease of separation between different sizes. So if anyone knows where hammer or these other companies purchase the plastic tips, I would love to know.

Also as a side note if this works out well, I may start to produce and sell these bullets after I obtain the proper licenses.
I'd like to focus on the outlier calibers that companies like alco don't offer. 270, 8mm, 25 cal.

Thanks in advance guys.

 

[FEENIX]

Good morning gents, I'm in the process of purchasing dies presses and everything I need to make my own bullets from scratch, I. Sure it will have a steap learning curve, but when the major manufacturers don't make what you want.....
So the Corbin dies I'm ordering have a related boat tail design. I'd like to get your guys opinion on that boat tail and the uld tips they offer. I'm looking for as much real world experience as I can get.

Does anyone know if I can still order j4 jackets from burger? I haven't had a chance to look yet.

And lastly I would love to color code the tips of my bullets like nosler, just for the ease of separation between different sizes. So if anyone knows where hammer or these other companies purchase the plastic tips, I would love to know.

Also as a side note if this works out well, I may start to produce and sell these bullets after I obtain the proper licenses.
I'd like to focus on the outlier calibers that companies like alco don't offer. 270, 8mm, 25 cal.

Thanks in advance guys.

Berger bullets are made with J4 Precision Jackets. But when in doubt, contact them directly.

Be$t of luck$ in making your own bullet$.

 

[Deputy819]

but when the major manufacturers don't make what you want.....

Considering all the bullet manufacturers in business today and all of their many offerings what is it that you're looking for/to do?

 

[6mm06guy]

Considering all the bullet manufacturers in business today and all of their many offerings what is it that you're looking for/to do?

The first one I'd like is to replace the 270 110 gr bonded bullet nosler no longer makes, the second is a 250 gr long range hunting bullet for my 8mm Remington magnum, those will be the first 2. I have spent countless hours trying to find a replacement and while I like the 110 vmax , it's a little soft.

 

[6mm06guy]

I was hoping to get some more replies on bullet design, does anyone dislike the rebated boat tails vs standard. Tipped vs just hollow points, and bonded vs not

 

[FEENIX]

Considering all the bullet manufacturers in business today and all of their many offerings what is it that you're looking for/to do?

Agreed! There is no shortage of excellent bullet choices out there already.

I was hoping to get some more replies on bullet design, does anyone dislike the rebated boat tails vs standard. Tipped vs just hollow points, and bonded vs not

There are 4 "actual" bullet makers here in LRH, and they will not share that with you freely, and rightfully so. If you want to know the construction of a bullet, you can dissect it like some of @Petey308's posts. However, unless you have the capital equipment already, it is not worth the time, money, or effort on what you are trying to accomplish.

I have a good collection of bullets with various designs and construction (leaded and lead-free). I do not have a problem with RBT vs. standard, tipped vs. HP, or bonded vs. not bonded. In short, I adapted to what is readily available instead of clinging to what is no longer available.

Again, I wi$h you be$t of luck$!

 

[6mm06guy]

Agreed! There is no shortage of excellent bullet choices out there already.

There are 4 "actual" bullet makers here in LRH, and they will not share that with you freely, and rightfully so. If you want to know the construction of a bullet, you can dissect it like some of @Petey308's posts. However, unless you have the capital equipment already, it is not worth the time, money, or effort on what you are trying to accomplish.

I have a good collection of bullets with various designs and construction (leaded and lead-free). I do not have a problem with RBT vs. standard, tipped vs. HP, or bonded vs. not bonded. In short, I adapted to what is readily available instead of clinging to what is no longer available.

Again, I wi$h you be$t of luck$!

Who are the 3 besides hammer?

 

[FEENIX]

Who are the 3 besides hammer?

CEB, Apex Outdoors, and McGuire Ballistics.

 

[std7mag]

Talking with someone that has made (still makes) custom match bullets, they claim that doing a consistent pull when forming the ogive is the hardest part.

Aside from the astronomical costs involved.

 

[Greatgrandad]

Good morning gents, I'm in the process of purchasing dies presses and everything I need to make my own bullets from scratch, I. Sure it will have a steap learning curve, but when the major manufacturers don't make what you want.....
So the Corbin dies I'm ordering have a related boat tail design. I'd like to get your guys opinion on that boat tail and the uld tips they offer. I'm looking for as much real world experience as I can get.

Does anyone know if I can still order j4 jackets from berger? I haven't had a chance to look yet.

And lastly I would love to color code the tips of my bullets like nosler, just for the ease of separation between different sizes. So if anyone knows where hammer or these other companies purchase the plastic tips, I would love to know.

Also as a side note if this works out well, I may start to produce and sell these bullets after I obtain the proper licenses.
I'd like to focus on the outlier calibers that companies like alco don't offer. 270, 8mm, 25 cal.

Thanks in advance guys.

Years back, I and a couple of others, played around with various home swaged bullets, and I still have several of those old dies from Corbin and others. The RBT design works ok if special care is given when forming the RBT, but eventually, we just went with the more standard BT design. I did like the ability to make various weights of bullets not available, and yes, we even played with the old bonded bullets by using flux in the jacket and then heating the lead cores to melting before swaging. They did work, and we even made a few home made partition designs.

As for still finding J4 jackets for sale, I am not sure. Other than Corbin's, I haven't seen nor bought those in a several years, but while I rarely ever swage now, I still have some in 224, 6mm and 30 caliber. The larger rifle calibers were used up long ago, as we went to all factory bullets. I would suggest calling the various manufactures, but even many years ago, they would only sell in large bulk minimums.