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<blockquote data-quote="comfisherman" data-source="post: 2757854" data-attributes="member: 8394"><p>I fully understand this sentiment, the reality is most who take the time to study enough to get on a forum and join in probably put in the time to not need a guide. Not entirely sure what was going on when it became guide required, it was before my time. I'm certain it was a combination of protectionism with a little bit of honest issues sprinkled in.</p><p></p><p>I do remember when goats became guide only for out-of-state. It's true there was some pretty bad actors causing problems from out of state shooting the wrong animals, conversely there was some issue with locals doing it as well. On the surface there were real reasons why at least one guy really pushed hard to get it shut down, doesn't diminish the fact that his son benefited financially from that decision as well. Was it 50/50 real or profiteering I don't know, probably depends on the day and definitely depends on who you ask. Clearly the board thought so so either viable reasons or not made it so. Guessing the bear super exclusivity was probably along the same lines.</p><p></p><p>I'm kind of on the outside looking in as I have no desire to shoot a bear, and I'm a resident with property in remote alaska. Shooting problem Bears is always such a pain in the rear, always Associated bear hunting with being a pain in the butt. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Without going too long winded, I remember being 18. Couple of friends got jobs essentially being Packers for a guide outfit, at the same time I took a job on a competitive halibut boat with lots of quota. I'm not sure what they made that spring but it wasn't much over minimum wage, pretty sure my weekly pay was close to their 6-8 weeks. Over the years I kept fishing, and going to school and they worked their way up to guide level. At no point was I ever envious of the pay, even though it seemed like a cool job it just never looked like it penciled. I'm certain some of the guides make quite a bit of money, but the junior woodchuck standing next to you might just be there cuz it's cool to be there. Competency is hard to test for in many lines of work, it's not exactly hedge fund levels of pay... so it's gonna be hit or miss. </p><p></p><p>Akdad is not wrong in his observation, just kinda surprised so many are able to still get clients in this digital age.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="comfisherman, post: 2757854, member: 8394"] I fully understand this sentiment, the reality is most who take the time to study enough to get on a forum and join in probably put in the time to not need a guide. Not entirely sure what was going on when it became guide required, it was before my time. I'm certain it was a combination of protectionism with a little bit of honest issues sprinkled in. I do remember when goats became guide only for out-of-state. It's true there was some pretty bad actors causing problems from out of state shooting the wrong animals, conversely there was some issue with locals doing it as well. On the surface there were real reasons why at least one guy really pushed hard to get it shut down, doesn't diminish the fact that his son benefited financially from that decision as well. Was it 50/50 real or profiteering I don't know, probably depends on the day and definitely depends on who you ask. Clearly the board thought so so either viable reasons or not made it so. Guessing the bear super exclusivity was probably along the same lines. I'm kind of on the outside looking in as I have no desire to shoot a bear, and I'm a resident with property in remote alaska. Shooting problem Bears is always such a pain in the rear, always Associated bear hunting with being a pain in the butt. Without going too long winded, I remember being 18. Couple of friends got jobs essentially being Packers for a guide outfit, at the same time I took a job on a competitive halibut boat with lots of quota. I'm not sure what they made that spring but it wasn't much over minimum wage, pretty sure my weekly pay was close to their 6-8 weeks. Over the years I kept fishing, and going to school and they worked their way up to guide level. At no point was I ever envious of the pay, even though it seemed like a cool job it just never looked like it penciled. I'm certain some of the guides make quite a bit of money, but the junior woodchuck standing next to you might just be there cuz it's cool to be there. Competency is hard to test for in many lines of work, it's not exactly hedge fund levels of pay... so it's gonna be hit or miss. Akdad is not wrong in his observation, just kinda surprised so many are able to still get clients in this digital age. [/QUOTE]
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