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Brass...whats good and whats bad?
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<blockquote data-quote="kraig" data-source="post: 1522049" data-attributes="member: 108101"><p>My experience has been that for "hunting / good enough" reloading to MOA or better shooting even out of factory rifles I can get away with practically any brass. We have several loads that were made up from cheap PPU brass that shoot .5-.75 inch groups out of stock Remington 700 or Savage 110 hunting rifles. Reason for this is that I like to buy the cheap PPU or Monark ammo and shoot it to get my brass and practice at the same time.</p><p></p><p>I've done tests using the "same load" (primer, powder, bullet) with different brass and out of a hunting rifle it is hard to tell between mixed brass groups vs. same brass that has been weighted. In some cases it is hard to tell the difference even when the powder charge isn't perfect. (done on purpose to find a "node") I might get some flack for saying so but for a hunting round that just needs to be MOA or better I tend to find the velocity node the barrel likes and the bullet weight it likes then work the length off the lands if I feel so inclined. Often in that velocity & bullet weight sweet spot I can get less than MOA out of several different powder/bullet combos. That way if I run out of something, can't get it, or have a new lot of powder I can often still get good enough results.</p><p></p><p>I have some guns that I don't bother to reload for at all. I have a Remington 700 in .243 that shoots core-lokt ammo .75moa out to 500 yards...why bother reloading? Have a Savage .270 that shoots just under moa with winchester 130s. (but shoots .5-.6 moa with a reload) I've never cycled Lapua brass through a hunting rifle, just seems silly. So it is all about what is good enough for you. I reload mostly because I like to but I like to spend my time on reloading for the custom built rifles where the results are easier to see when reloading is done well, especially when shooting 500+ yards.</p><p></p><p>I've only been reloading for a few years with thousands of rounds rolled compared to some guys who have decades of experience and tens of thousands of rounds rolled. So take what I say in that context.</p><p></p><p>With PPU brass I'm seeing </p><p>7RM getting 2-3 reloadings then splits in the neck appear</p><p>270 have 3-5 reloadings some pockets are getting loose</p><p>308 have 5-7 reloadings wo/annealing but they aren't pushed still going strong</p><p></p><p>Mileage may vary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kraig, post: 1522049, member: 108101"] My experience has been that for "hunting / good enough" reloading to MOA or better shooting even out of factory rifles I can get away with practically any brass. We have several loads that were made up from cheap PPU brass that shoot .5-.75 inch groups out of stock Remington 700 or Savage 110 hunting rifles. Reason for this is that I like to buy the cheap PPU or Monark ammo and shoot it to get my brass and practice at the same time. I've done tests using the "same load" (primer, powder, bullet) with different brass and out of a hunting rifle it is hard to tell between mixed brass groups vs. same brass that has been weighted. In some cases it is hard to tell the difference even when the powder charge isn't perfect. (done on purpose to find a "node") I might get some flack for saying so but for a hunting round that just needs to be MOA or better I tend to find the velocity node the barrel likes and the bullet weight it likes then work the length off the lands if I feel so inclined. Often in that velocity & bullet weight sweet spot I can get less than MOA out of several different powder/bullet combos. That way if I run out of something, can't get it, or have a new lot of powder I can often still get good enough results. I have some guns that I don't bother to reload for at all. I have a Remington 700 in .243 that shoots core-lokt ammo .75moa out to 500 yards...why bother reloading? Have a Savage .270 that shoots just under moa with winchester 130s. (but shoots .5-.6 moa with a reload) I've never cycled Lapua brass through a hunting rifle, just seems silly. So it is all about what is good enough for you. I reload mostly because I like to but I like to spend my time on reloading for the custom built rifles where the results are easier to see when reloading is done well, especially when shooting 500+ yards. I've only been reloading for a few years with thousands of rounds rolled compared to some guys who have decades of experience and tens of thousands of rounds rolled. So take what I say in that context. With PPU brass I'm seeing 7RM getting 2-3 reloadings then splits in the neck appear 270 have 3-5 reloadings some pockets are getting loose 308 have 5-7 reloadings wo/annealing but they aren't pushed still going strong Mileage may vary. [/QUOTE]
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