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Brainstorming Ideas on Long Range Elk Pistol
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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 1521651" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>I am one of the biggest fans of the 7/08 and have dropped more deer with it than any other cartridge I have ever shot. I also got the pistol bug and started with the 7 TCU and found it lacked in power and knock down in a pistol And started working up in power. I had tried the regular pistol cartridges like the 44 mag and found that it still wouldn't drop deer and hogs like a rifle so I progressed up to the 45/70 and the 444 marlin. All my hunting pistols were in TC Contenders. What I found was the 45/70 recoil was terrible</p><p>But lacked the ballistics at 100+yards. The 444 marlin was a different story, the knock down power was amazing with a 265 grain bullet at 2400 ft/sec. but the recoil was brutal in the 3.5 lb pistol and was not for the faint of heart. (I still have it).</p><p></p><p>After hunting with it for many years, I got the long range bug and was not satisfied with 2 or 3 hundred yard shots. Inter the bolt action pistol. By this time, I had been shooting the 708 in a rifle for many years and knew what it could do, so I built a 7/08 on an XP 100 action with a heavy 16.2" barrel (Just in case I wanted to convert it to a carbine it would be legal).</p><p></p><p>I was having great results with the 120 grain Ballistic tip in the rifle so that's where I started loading the pistol. While testing, I found that the 150 grain had the best overall performance to 600 yards (I limited my shots to that range because of the energy produced) The 150 actually produced more energy at those distances and I was successful on three occasions with shots over 500 yards all were deer and dropped in there tracks.</p><p></p><p>The pistol cant reach the velocities of a rifle in pistol length barrels, so I recommend bullets in the 150 class for best velocity, trajectory and energy. If I hunted ELK I would still use the 150 BT or possibly the Accubond but I would reduce the distance to 3 or 400 yards just to be sure. Velocities can be almost the same with the 150,s as the 120,s in the pistol with proper loading and I would not hesitate to hunt Elk with it.</p><p></p><p>I have zero.s to 500 yards in my 2.5 x 7 power scope and at 300 yards average 5 shot group size is less than 3/4". It is one of the most accurate firearms I have. I have never tried a more powerful scope because of the distance used at, but I'm sure I could tighten the groups with it dressed with one.</p><p></p><p>Just My experience with the/a 7/08 pistol.</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 1521651, member: 2736"] I am one of the biggest fans of the 7/08 and have dropped more deer with it than any other cartridge I have ever shot. I also got the pistol bug and started with the 7 TCU and found it lacked in power and knock down in a pistol And started working up in power. I had tried the regular pistol cartridges like the 44 mag and found that it still wouldn't drop deer and hogs like a rifle so I progressed up to the 45/70 and the 444 marlin. All my hunting pistols were in TC Contenders. What I found was the 45/70 recoil was terrible But lacked the ballistics at 100+yards. The 444 marlin was a different story, the knock down power was amazing with a 265 grain bullet at 2400 ft/sec. but the recoil was brutal in the 3.5 lb pistol and was not for the faint of heart. (I still have it). After hunting with it for many years, I got the long range bug and was not satisfied with 2 or 3 hundred yard shots. Inter the bolt action pistol. By this time, I had been shooting the 708 in a rifle for many years and knew what it could do, so I built a 7/08 on an XP 100 action with a heavy 16.2" barrel (Just in case I wanted to convert it to a carbine it would be legal). I was having great results with the 120 grain Ballistic tip in the rifle so that's where I started loading the pistol. While testing, I found that the 150 grain had the best overall performance to 600 yards (I limited my shots to that range because of the energy produced) The 150 actually produced more energy at those distances and I was successful on three occasions with shots over 500 yards all were deer and dropped in there tracks. The pistol cant reach the velocities of a rifle in pistol length barrels, so I recommend bullets in the 150 class for best velocity, trajectory and energy. If I hunted ELK I would still use the 150 BT or possibly the Accubond but I would reduce the distance to 3 or 400 yards just to be sure. Velocities can be almost the same with the 150,s as the 120,s in the pistol with proper loading and I would not hesitate to hunt Elk with it. I have zero.s to 500 yards in my 2.5 x 7 power scope and at 300 yards average 5 shot group size is less than 3/4". It is one of the most accurate firearms I have. I have never tried a more powerful scope because of the distance used at, but I'm sure I could tighten the groups with it dressed with one. Just My experience with the/a 7/08 pistol. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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