dj,
i'm shooting them in my 300win mag cci br2 primers,.010 in lands with a very stiff charge of h4831sc out of a 28" tube. haveny chronied them yet but i'm guessing 3100. four shots at 550 yards measured 4". on a very windy day i shot same load at 820 yards. 5 shots 9" but horizontal from wind,4 shots in 6". they shoot if the right combo is found. check out thier site. they have some tips on how to get them to shoot in a finicky gun. jasongun)