So is it just a matter of opinion on best BBL maker? I a hart BBL for a 6x284 now I get half inch groups with an ocasionel .3s .4s. Plus I have probabley 800rnds thru it. I think its time to order a new bbl. What about a Krieger?Lilja? Pacnor? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif