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At long range do you dial, BDC turret, graduated reticle, holdover, etc?
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<blockquote data-quote="yobuck" data-source="post: 2708397" data-attributes="member: 12443"><p>Back in the day, there were very few choices.</p><p>And back in the day means as recent as about the mid 80s.</p><p>Back then, most of the now popular scopes didnt even exist.</p><p>Or in some cases they were far different scopes, not capable of dialing.</p><p>Target knobs on Leupolds didnt happen untill about the mid 80s for example.</p><p>And even with a hot cartridge like a 7x300 Weatherby running a 162 gr Hornady at 3400 or more you would find yourself out of clicks at about 1000 or so yards. I mean the dial still turned but nothing was happening with the reticle.</p><p>Mind you now, the great scopes mounts of today didnt exist either, so beverage can shims under the rear base were common. And frankly some still exist today.</p><p>Another option was to send your standard Leupold to Dick Thomas at Premier reticles and have him install a series of dots programed for your load.</p><p>When the dials came into play Dick would sell you a new Leupold scope with dials and install the custom reticle as well.</p><p>And yes, you could hold your 1000 yd dot and then dial from that, same as you did from the 100 yard dot if you chose to.</p><p>Which of coarse gave you lots more elevation adjustment.</p><p>The dots themselves were very accurate, even without dialing.</p><p>When i was a mere 70 years old, 3 of us were sitting on a steep hillside looking across a wide valley in the most northern part of Clinton co Pa. where it meets Cameron co.</p><p>I found a bear running hard straight up the oppose hillside.</p><p>The other 2 guys were never able to find it in their tripod mounted glasses, because it was moving so fast.</p><p>Anyway i got off my glasses and my son moved right onto them. His I P D is same as mine, so he was on him right away.</p><p>I got onto my gun which was sitting on a portable bench we carried in to the spot.</p><p>I found the bear in the 3.5x10 Leupold with the dot setup but no dials. </p><p>We keep a book with us with ranges on various objects like big rocks and such of most of the locations we hunt.</p><p>My son had the book in his hand, when the bear finally stopped running about 3/4s the way to the top i was on him, and shouted to my son ( how far ).</p><p>He said 7 to 750 is about as close as i can tell you.</p><p>I held the 700 yd dot on top of his back and sent one over there. The bear dropped instantly, but in a few seconds got back up and tried to go uphill. After a few feet he turned and went across the hill to our left, and i said he is hurt bad or he wouldnt have done that.</p><p>He stopped again after just going a few yards and i sent another which just missed him. Then he turned and started downhill, which was another indicator of him being hurt bad.</p><p>He stopped again and i dropped him again for good on the third shot. He was done, and didnt even move after that.</p><p>So was it luck? Yes it was luck, the biggest part being that i saw it to begin with. Preparation, and knowing your equipment and how to use it isnt luck however.</p><p>The gun is a 7x300 Weatherby built by the late Howard Wolfe on a 700 action with a 27" recycled 40x Rem barrel on it and weighing about 10 pounds. The same scope is still on the gun today, 17 years later. But sadly, i can no longer crawl up to many of those old places to use it.</p><p> Thank the lord for what we have, especially the old memories.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yobuck, post: 2708397, member: 12443"] Back in the day, there were very few choices. And back in the day means as recent as about the mid 80s. Back then, most of the now popular scopes didnt even exist. Or in some cases they were far different scopes, not capable of dialing. Target knobs on Leupolds didnt happen untill about the mid 80s for example. And even with a hot cartridge like a 7x300 Weatherby running a 162 gr Hornady at 3400 or more you would find yourself out of clicks at about 1000 or so yards. I mean the dial still turned but nothing was happening with the reticle. Mind you now, the great scopes mounts of today didnt exist either, so beverage can shims under the rear base were common. And frankly some still exist today. Another option was to send your standard Leupold to Dick Thomas at Premier reticles and have him install a series of dots programed for your load. When the dials came into play Dick would sell you a new Leupold scope with dials and install the custom reticle as well. And yes, you could hold your 1000 yd dot and then dial from that, same as you did from the 100 yard dot if you chose to. Which of coarse gave you lots more elevation adjustment. The dots themselves were very accurate, even without dialing. When i was a mere 70 years old, 3 of us were sitting on a steep hillside looking across a wide valley in the most northern part of Clinton co Pa. where it meets Cameron co. I found a bear running hard straight up the oppose hillside. The other 2 guys were never able to find it in their tripod mounted glasses, because it was moving so fast. Anyway i got off my glasses and my son moved right onto them. His I P D is same as mine, so he was on him right away. I got onto my gun which was sitting on a portable bench we carried in to the spot. I found the bear in the 3.5x10 Leupold with the dot setup but no dials. We keep a book with us with ranges on various objects like big rocks and such of most of the locations we hunt. My son had the book in his hand, when the bear finally stopped running about 3/4s the way to the top i was on him, and shouted to my son ( how far ). He said 7 to 750 is about as close as i can tell you. I held the 700 yd dot on top of his back and sent one over there. The bear dropped instantly, but in a few seconds got back up and tried to go uphill. After a few feet he turned and went across the hill to our left, and i said he is hurt bad or he wouldnt have done that. He stopped again after just going a few yards and i sent another which just missed him. Then he turned and started downhill, which was another indicator of him being hurt bad. He stopped again and i dropped him again for good on the third shot. He was done, and didnt even move after that. So was it luck? Yes it was luck, the biggest part being that i saw it to begin with. Preparation, and knowing your equipment and how to use it isnt luck however. The gun is a 7x300 Weatherby built by the late Howard Wolfe on a 700 action with a 27” recycled 40x Rem barrel on it and weighing about 10 pounds. The same scope is still on the gun today, 17 years later. But sadly, i can no longer crawl up to many of those old places to use it. Thank the lord for what we have, especially the old memories. [/QUOTE]
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