Are faster bullets easier to shoot?

[ShtrRdy]

I wanted to run this by the members to see if anyone else has experienced this.

It 'seems' to me that I shoot a rifle that has a faster bullet better than a slower bullet. For example, I shoot a 6mm Creedmoor and 22-250 better than the .308 Win and .22 rimfire.

I think what may be causing this is inconsistent follow through. I've been struggling with remaining relaxed and basically motionless after the shot breaks and until the recoil impulse has ended. I'm pretty good at holding the trigger back during this time but muscle tension flares up leading up to the shot breaking and throughout recoil.

Have any of you experienced this?
-- Todd

 

[Zen Archery]

It would be hard to quantify data since this is by shooter experience. My answer is no. The only way I could rationally say yes is recoil I'm faster lighter rifles is more nominal than bigger and slower calibers but a muzzle brake will fix potential flinching issues.

 

[dfanonymous]

I wanted to run this by the members to see if anyone else has experienced this.

It 'seems' to me that I shoot a rifle that has a faster bullet better than a slower bullet. For example, I shoot a 6mm Creedmoor and 22-250 better than the .308 Win and .22 rimfire.

I think what may be causing this is inconsistent follow through. I've been struggling with remaining relaxed and basically motionless after the shot breaks and until the recoil impulse has ended. I'm pretty good at holding the trigger back during this time but muscle tension flares up leading up to the shot breaking and throughout recoil.

Have any of you experienced this?
-- Todd

You're probably use to the cheat. Fast bullets can have less margin for error, and like zen said, poor technique and recoil management or a flinch will amplify poor technique. This is why everyone has switched to a 2900-3000fps 6mm bullet in PRS. It's more forgiving, and people want to be forgave to be more competitive. But if you could do a stage very well with a .308, you could do great with all the same cheats because you could do the same thing, but faster.

 

[rsmithsr]

sorry but not really
you are not comparing apples to apples.
as to above they are shooting a 6br variation, 6 dasher or 6bra. efficient for the TASK. that is all. fits the rules well.

 

[dfanonymous]

sorry but not really
you are not comparing apples to apples.
as to above they are shooting a 6br variation, 6 dasher or 6bra. efficient for the TASK. that is all. fits the rules well.

I'm not saying it's against the rules. When I say cheat, I mean cheating basic marksmanship and fundamentals by using said efficient setup. It adds forgiveness to shooting, especially in positions that would in all real world, be less than ideal. There's a point where it becomes more about gear and less about a competent shooter. So again, people want to be more forgiven competitively, because if you're not doing it, someone with similar skills will be. Why do you think no one really competes in tactical div anymore and the ones who do use a .223 more often then not. Lol


So no, not apple to apples, just a linear argument.

 

[rsmithsr]

gee and here I thought I was talking to the guy that ASKED THE QUESTION.

 

[josip89]

With more speed the bullet is less time in the barrel.
So Yes I think faster is easier to shoot.

 

[Plinker147]

My answer is No. I shoot slower bullets same as faster. Now I shoot 6.5's and under better than I do 300 mag and bigger but that's is mental with recoil and muzzle blast.

6mm are more popular in PRS because of less recoil, ability to spot shots, and barrel life. Has nothing to do with speed because you see as many 6BR's as you do 6 creedmores.

 

[Tiny Tim]

I think you answered your own question in your acknowledging your form issues. Recoil with heavier bullets/cartridges may exaggerate these issues, but that doesn't account for the 22LR. Some rifles don't fit me as well as others and I have to modify my form, grip, or position to shoot them well. Are you comparing apples to apples in your differing rifle's accuracy potential? Is your 22 as accurate as your 22-250? Are you shooting a 14 lb 22-250 vs a 7 lb 308?

 

[lancetkenyon]

OP, I really find it a stretch trying to compare 4 different rifles and ONLY blaming bullet speed for accuracy differences.

Unless you are shooting all of these at 50 yards, the .22LR is going to be way outclassed at 100 yards by all 3 of the others. Plus, you would need to be shooting the best ammo you have tried in your rifle, not the 500 count brick you buy at Walmart for $25. Teley, Aguila, Norma, etc. Match loads that run $5-15/box really can make a difference in results here.

Same goes for the other 3 rifles if you are using factory ammo. Unless you have tried multiple boxes from all the various manufacturers to see what your rifle likes best, it is probably an ammo issue.

If you hand load, could still be an ammo issue. If you have not tailored your ammo to your rifle. Could be bullet choice, powder choice, primer choice, brass choice, charge weights, neck tension, rifle itself, trigger pull weight, barrel quality, stock fit & shape, scope quality, cheek weld, parallax setting, etc.

What I am saying is, probably has nothing to do with MV.

 

[milo-2]

I wanted to run this by the members to see if anyone else has experienced this.

It 'seems' to me that I shoot a rifle that has a faster bullet better than a slower bullet. For example, I shoot a 6mm Creedmoor and 22-250 better than the .308 Win and .22 rimfire.

I think what may be causing this is inconsistent follow through. I've been struggling with remaining relaxed and basically motionless after the shot breaks and until the recoil impulse has ended. I'm pretty good at holding the trigger back during this time but muscle tension flares up leading up to the shot breaking and throughout recoil.

Have any of you experienced this?
-- Todd

You made the question rather vague when you included the 22 rimfire. If you had your 3 cartridges in 3 rifles of the exact same configuration, do you think your theory would be the same, all things equal of coarse? By that I mean pay your dues the same on load develop and effort behind the test. Now, if you still feel the same, then I say you don't care for the bigger rd that much.
Then again, you never mentioned at what distances you are experiencing the disconnect, the 22-250 could be a hammer to 500 yards, the 308 to maybe 800, but the 6 creed to 1200. Heck, if you shot the 22 at 35 yards only it may be your favorite platform. A stock alone can make or brake any rifle.
I am going to go and make one big assumption here, you had the 308 and 22-250 and recently started shooting the 6 creed and are loving it, high BC bullet at impressive speeds doing all that you ask in a rifle, and you have found your comfort zone, like DF above alluded to.

I don't buy the bullet in the barrel time here, we are talking milliseconds here, that's like saying you could tell the difference pulling the trigger on a case loaded with H4350 and H 1000, aint happening, these aren't percussion rifles.
We as shooters seem to thrive on conjecture. And I don't think your comparisons are fair.

Yesterday, I went to a friendly shoot, mix of LR, accuracy, and speed shooting, basically a Fudd shoot, wow, I just called myself a fudd, but after, a kid wanted to shoot my rifle, 6x47, with 110 sierra. Blah, blah, as I was setting him up for a few shots at 500, a guy asked if I wanted to try a pad under my bipod, eliminates bipod hop was the theory. When asked, I vapor locked, I just wasn't prepared to respond, all I had was, "this rifle doesn't move". Dang, could have said, this is a 15lb rifle, shooting a baby cartridge at mediocre speeds, with one of the best brakes made", but instead stood there with the "W.T.F." stare, lol. Letting him bolt rip 5 rds at a 500 plate would have been the best route.

 

[FEENIX]

Have any of you experienced this?

No!

 

[ShtrRdy]

Okay, you guys bring up some good points. I am shooting the .22 rimfire at 50 yards and the centerfire cartridges at 100 yards in my examples. The cartridges I used as examples are cartridges I shoot in rifles that shoot very well if I do my part. I realize I am the biggest unknown of the whole thing. The centerfire cartridges are hand loads that were developed for the appropriate rifle.

I believe I have trouble remaining relaxed and still when the shot breaks. Call it a flinch, or whatever, it happens. I can dry fire and remain still and not blink but when I know there's a live round in the chamber, then the tension builds. The trigger even feels heavier for me when I need to release the shot on a live round.

That said, there are times I can release a few shots while being still and make some nice tiny groups. But I'm not able to do that on demand.

 

[Bravo 4]

Maybe it's not the cartridges but the rifles. If they were the same weight/stock/trigger (fit & feel) and precision then you could narrow it down to the cartridge. If you were speaking about your ability to make hits at long range then yeah the cartridge and load can matter.