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Anyone shot deer with the 190grn Sub-x at 1050ish fps??
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<blockquote data-quote="WV Hitman" data-source="post: 2924536" data-attributes="member: 115208"><p>All these new sub .30 gr. bullets leave a lot to be desired. I've had a .300 Whisper (aka Blackout) since it's inception. JD Jones is a good friend and asked me to see what worked in it.</p><p>He developed it to use a 240 gr. Sierra HPBT Match. That would kill deer, but usually ran a ways. He also hooked me up with Lehigh Defense to test their subsonic bullets. A lot of their early bullets were bad & looked like the subXs in the pics. Deer ran or were lost.</p><p> Now, based on over 120 deer kills. 4 turkeys, several coyotes, here's what I've found. #1 subsonic bullet in the Whisper is the Speer 220 gr. Round Nose. I get about 95% instant drops on deer including a big buck at 240 yards. # 2 sub bullet is the Lehigh 186 gr. Chaos. It gets about 95% drops, too, but shoots flatter than the 220 RN, so you have to use a different mildot on your scope (mildot scopes are mandatory with subsonic bullets since they fly like a thrown rock).</p><p> I shot some of the Horn. 190s, but they shot so far off my 220s that I had to use 3 or 4 mildots different. A waste of time.</p><p> Bottom line, if you want a dependable .300 subsonic bullet, just stick with the 220RN at 1050fps & stop worrying. Do the expand? Maybe, but I get 100% penetration even on the 240 yd. buck with a double shoulder hit. It dropped like he was poleaxed at that distance! So did my last coyote at 170 yds. Save you $ on the new subs & get 220 RNs & figure out what load gets them subsonic. Saves a lot of heartache/headache/worries.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WV Hitman, post: 2924536, member: 115208"] All these new sub .30 gr. bullets leave a lot to be desired. I've had a .300 Whisper (aka Blackout) since it's inception. JD Jones is a good friend and asked me to see what worked in it. He developed it to use a 240 gr. Sierra HPBT Match. That would kill deer, but usually ran a ways. He also hooked me up with Lehigh Defense to test their subsonic bullets. A lot of their early bullets were bad & looked like the subXs in the pics. Deer ran or were lost. Now, based on over 120 deer kills. 4 turkeys, several coyotes, here's what I've found. #1 subsonic bullet in the Whisper is the Speer 220 gr. Round Nose. I get about 95% instant drops on deer including a big buck at 240 yards. # 2 sub bullet is the Lehigh 186 gr. Chaos. It gets about 95% drops, too, but shoots flatter than the 220 RN, so you have to use a different mildot on your scope (mildot scopes are mandatory with subsonic bullets since they fly like a thrown rock). I shot some of the Horn. 190s, but they shot so far off my 220s that I had to use 3 or 4 mildots different. A waste of time. Bottom line, if you want a dependable .300 subsonic bullet, just stick with the 220RN at 1050fps & stop worrying. Do the expand? Maybe, but I get 100% penetration even on the 240 yd. buck with a double shoulder hit. It dropped like he was poleaxed at that distance! So did my last coyote at 170 yds. Save you $ on the new subs & get 220 RNs & figure out what load gets them subsonic. Saves a lot of heartache/headache/worries. [/QUOTE]
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