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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 2609656" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>I'll let the OP decide if his Thread pertains to long range hunting. I'm certain the bears could care less one way or the other. I'm also certain the Fish and Game article wasn't drafted in specific response to this Thread. Does that mean it lacks relevance too? </p><p></p><p>We'll disagree that Fish and Game knows the average hunter any better than I, or most other life long hunters know hunters. The authors know little about long range hunters and hunting, or they wouldn't frown upon that method of hunting. They don't know what hunting equipment, rifles, calibers, cartridges, or hunting methods are best for me.</p><p></p><p>Never heard of an Alaska bear guide carrying the 270 Win as backup for their bear hunting clients. Never heard or read of a bear guide bragging about the 270 Win being a terrific close range, in your face, bear stopping cartridge.</p><p></p><p>We agree this Thread is about bear hunting, correct? Your citing this article as the definitive authority on Alaska hunting cartridges and calibers lacks something important. The part that bears can and do maim and kill hunters. The recognition that some bears need stopped quicker than others. The fact that some cartridges can be expected to disable and kill bears quicker than others. The article lacks any discussion on the differences between hunting bears at a comfortable distance, versus stopping one quickly before it can maim or kill.</p><p></p><p>The most poignant, accurate description of bears I've heard in my life came from an ADFG employee. One that really did know more about bear behavior than most, having decades of field experience responding to nuisance bear complaints. I quote his words... "As far as I'm concerned, bears are nothing more than opportunistic predators".</p><p></p><p>He also told me which caliber/cartridge he carried while responding to bear complaints. The 270 Win is a pipsqueak, in comparison.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 2609656, member: 4191"] I'll let the OP decide if his Thread pertains to long range hunting. I'm certain the bears could care less one way or the other. I'm also certain the Fish and Game article wasn't drafted in specific response to this Thread. Does that mean it lacks relevance too? We'll disagree that Fish and Game knows the average hunter any better than I, or most other life long hunters know hunters. The authors know little about long range hunters and hunting, or they wouldn't frown upon that method of hunting. They don't know what hunting equipment, rifles, calibers, cartridges, or hunting methods are best for me. Never heard of an Alaska bear guide carrying the 270 Win as backup for their bear hunting clients. Never heard or read of a bear guide bragging about the 270 Win being a terrific close range, in your face, bear stopping cartridge. We agree this Thread is about bear hunting, correct? Your citing this article as the definitive authority on Alaska hunting cartridges and calibers lacks something important. The part that bears can and do maim and kill hunters. The recognition that some bears need stopped quicker than others. The fact that some cartridges can be expected to disable and kill bears quicker than others. The article lacks any discussion on the differences between hunting bears at a comfortable distance, versus stopping one quickly before it can maim or kill. The most poignant, accurate description of bears I've heard in my life came from an ADFG employee. One that really did know more about bear behavior than most, having decades of field experience responding to nuisance bear complaints. I quote his words... "As far as I'm concerned, bears are nothing more than opportunistic predators". He also told me which caliber/cartridge he carried while responding to bear complaints. The 270 Win is a pipsqueak, in comparison. [/QUOTE]
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