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I grew up with SFP scopes in the south and killed my share with them from 1970 until a few years ago. Moved to Montana in 1998 and used a 3-9 Leupold SFP, sighted in at 6 power and missed my share of animals. If you sight in at 6 and dial your turret to 9 you will shoot high, how high depends on yardage. Done it too many times to argue it. Switched to FFP scopes and it is a whole different world.I think I know what your saying but it's not coming across right the way you are describing the differences between FFP vs SFP..
Actually, no disrespect but I'm not sure I'm tracking what you mean by dialing on SFP will change the poi but not on FFP. That doesn't make sense. Dialing the turrets should move poi regardless of SFP or FFP.
We are guessing you mean magnification ring and not turret. The turrets are the knobs that adjust the elevation and wind age, they don't affect magnification. Also, the POI shift from changing magnification isn't regulated to SFP scopes, it has more to do with quality of optic.. If you sight in at 6 and dial your turret to 9 you will shoot high, how high depends on yardage.
"WRONG, Sir!"If you sight in at 6 and dial your turret to 9 you will shoot high, how high depends on yardage.
I know what my targets show SIR!"WRONG, Sir!"
~ Willy Wonka
Not correct. If you dial a SFP scopes turrets up 6 MOA, your reticle will move up 6 MOA, the exact same as a FFP. The turret does not know what plane your reticle is in and the turrets does not change magnification.Turning the turrets on a SSP scope changed more than magnification for me,it made my scope shoot much higher,they all do except FFP scopes.
You are referring to the subtensions in the reticle changing with magnification in SFP, not the "turret".I know what my targets show SIR!
I love myHi. I am working on piecing together a .300 win mag rifle and am curious on scopes.
For starters - I know someone that has done/does precision shooting and they have gravitated towards Schmidt and Bender for scopes. The current equivalents around the range his is are many thousands of dollars. I realize in the realm of "optics" price shoots up exponentially with quality. That is where I want to dig, though.
Ultimately what I am after is a reasonable scope that I can zero to my rifle at a set range then use elevation and windage turrets to compensate for both as conditions change. What I don't want is a set of turrets to zero the scope only. I want my set/starting point on the turrets zeroed to where I sight in my rifle, not the adjustments TO sight in the rifle. I've seen reticles that have scales in both directions that supposedly allow for some type of reference without needing to adjust the scope. That's not the direction I want to go - I want to be able to precisely and repeatably adjust the scope without loosing my sighted in position.
The range I am after is usually 100-300yds, but I'd like to be able to eventually get out to double that at 600yds. I'm not overly concerned with close-in range as that isn't what I'm going after with the rifle, but I don't want a large fixed magnification that restricts field of view much - adjustable zoom would be great (3-20, 5-25, something like that).
Are there any "entry level", if you can call them that, scopes/brands of scopes any of you would recommend? What are you using?
I grew up with SFP scopes in the south and killed my share with them from 1970 until a few years ago. Moved to Montana in 1998 and used a 3-9 Leupold SFP, sighted in at 6 power and missed my share of animals. If you sight in at 6 and dial your turret to 9 you will shoot high, how high depends on yardage. Done it too many times to argue it. Switched to FFP scopes and it is a whole different world.
On normal FFP reticles they are small on low power and enlarge as power goes up except the PR-1 reticle Leupold pioneered. It stays full size from low to high. What else do you want to know?
Actually, This is not correct either... If you dial scope turrets up 6 MOA, your reticle will move DOWN 6 MOA to raise your POI.Not correct. If you dial a SFP scopes turrets up 6 MOA, your reticle will move up 6 MOA, the exact same as a FFP. The turret does not know what plane your reticle is in and the turrets does not change magnification.
I believe you are using incorrect terms in referencing what you experience.
You are correct, I was referring to it's POI to the target, trying to keep it easier as some seem to be confused already.Actually, This is not correct either... If you dial scope turrets up 6 MOA, your reticle will move DOWN 6 MOA to raise your POI.