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ol mike
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Any long action .
It will need to be a magnum bolt-face or a standard can be machined -opened up to a magnum.
It will need to be a magnum bolt-face or a standard can be machined -opened up to a magnum.
ol mike
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The ADL is a great action to build on -i have one myself and have to say i prefer it over my two bdl's.
The 7mm mag will go a long way as a longrange rifle.It's easily capable of 1ooo yd shooting.
As far as jumping into the game -i can tell you from expierence -it takes alot of equipment to do it well.
What i'm getting at is you might start out with a LR scope ,laser rangefinder , quality stock and handloading equipment -then you'd have a solid 800 yard set-up>[providing the rifle shoots like "most" remingtons].
Although maybe you can just jump right in and get it all at once -if so good for you.
Also welcome to LRH --Mike
The 7mm mag will go a long way as a longrange rifle.It's easily capable of 1ooo yd shooting.
As far as jumping into the game -i can tell you from expierence -it takes alot of equipment to do it well.
What i'm getting at is you might start out with a LR scope ,laser rangefinder , quality stock and handloading equipment -then you'd have a solid 800 yard set-up>[providing the rifle shoots like "most" remingtons].
Although maybe you can just jump right in and get it all at once -if so good for you.
Also welcome to LRH --Mike
royinidaho
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I have a 270 AM built on an older Rem 721 action. Pretty much the same as the ADL. The biggest difference between ADL and BDL is the stock which is possibly/maybe/more than likely stiffer.
To make mine possibly/maybe/more than likely even more stiffer I glued in an aluminum action bottom and made it a single shot. Now I'm not bothered by magazine length restrictions.
My opinion is that the sako type extractor is the only way to go. I've pulled way too many rims off when pushing a 270 Win a little too hard. Pushing these extreme (APS) cartridges is just flat unnecessary.
I'd recommending making the jump. I sure has been fun for me. It's pretty nifty being in a situation where the limiting conditions are the shooter experience, wind and LRF instead of the Rifle.
Mike, good council and I appreciate it. Tho I'm new to the list, I'm not exactly new to shooting. I've been hunting for 50 years and reloading for over twenty years and have an old model 70 in 06 that is one of those guns that comes along that just always places the bullet where you point (I did put it in a HS Precision stock). Good for confidence and I don't hesitate to take a 350 yard shot.
That said, I know to shoot 1k takes a bit more than a quality gun and a pet load.
I'm looking at scopes and range finders now. I'm used to Leupolds, Burris and old Weavers but have nothing with "target" knobs.
Am looking at the Bushnell Elite and SWFA Super Sniper as entry level optics. Have not settled on a range finder but am looking. Suggestions welcome.
Roy & Rim, good information on the Sako extractor. I understand that this is a popular option but didn't know why.
No question, I'm a newby when it comes to long range shooting and will count on the expertise of the members of this list.
Thank to all and I welcome all suggestins and comments.
Aitch
That said, I know to shoot 1k takes a bit more than a quality gun and a pet load.
I'm looking at scopes and range finders now. I'm used to Leupolds, Burris and old Weavers but have nothing with "target" knobs.
Am looking at the Bushnell Elite and SWFA Super Sniper as entry level optics. Have not settled on a range finder but am looking. Suggestions welcome.
Roy & Rim, good information on the Sako extractor. I understand that this is a popular option but didn't know why.
No question, I'm a newby when it comes to long range shooting and will count on the expertise of the members of this list.
Thank to all and I welcome all suggestins and comments.
Aitch
royinidaho
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aitch,
I only about 2 yrs ahead of you which isn't very far. Our experience up till that 2 yr ago point is about identical 'cept my rifle was a 270 Win that I put together in 1966.
There ain't no reason you can't shoot the '06 out towards 1K. Just a bigger rainbow traj and lots of wind deflection. But, hey, last summer we were shooting 22 rfs at 500 yrds at a coyote silhouette and getting some hits. T'was quite fun.
I only about 2 yrs ahead of you which isn't very far. Our experience up till that 2 yr ago point is about identical 'cept my rifle was a 270 Win that I put together in 1966.
There ain't no reason you can't shoot the '06 out towards 1K. Just a bigger rainbow traj and lots of wind deflection. But, hey, last summer we were shooting 22 rfs at 500 yrds at a coyote silhouette and getting some hits. T'was quite fun.
No matter what round your shooting at long range you better have a good range finder and a drop chart at hand. I have a friend that shoots a 7 mm mag. for coyotes and if he can get them to hold still does pretty good out to 800 yrds. if he does not have to much wind. I shoot a .22-6mm and am good to about the same range. That seem to be about the max. range we can get good reading with our range finders, and the bullets are dropping pretty fast at that yardage so you have to have your yardage and drop chart pretty close out there. If you can get a second shot and see the bullet hit your odds go way up, but second shots are reair.
Stop now before you make a very expensive mistake.
Guys just talked about opening up the bolt face, sako extractor etc and that is before even truing. Bottom line that is $400-500 worth of work on an action that will be worth $400 when done. Buy a custom for less money and have a better action.
Sell the action now ($300-350), go to the group buy below on buying a ready to go stiller predator action for $600
You will never regret it and no extra smithing work.
BH
Guys just talked about opening up the bolt face, sako extractor etc and that is before even truing. Bottom line that is $400-500 worth of work on an action that will be worth $400 when done. Buy a custom for less money and have a better action.
Sell the action now ($300-350), go to the group buy below on buying a ready to go stiller predator action for $600
You will never regret it and no extra smithing work.
BH
royinidaho
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BountyHunter,
Top notch suggestion!!!
Top notch suggestion!!!
BH,
I don't deny that I've had some lessons in false economy. Just seems to me that the 700 action can be made a reliable, accurate platform for less than the cost of the Stiller, having looked at some smith's prices.
Then there's the self dilusional aspect, it's easier to write several small checks than one big one. We'll see.
If the truth were told, I'd be money ahead buying a complete rifle that someone else built, but what's the fun in that.
Let's face it, if we were all completely practical, there wouldn't be many long range hunters, much less this fine forum.
Deciding that I want a long range rifle is probably THE big expensive mistake.
I appreciate and value your input. Thank you.
Aitch
