That's correct Prime.
It seems to be the norm for a short action.
If you load them (the bullets) out far enough to utilize the case capacity, they won't fit in the magazine. If you push the bullets down in the case to fit the magazine, there's less powder capacity.
Possibly your smith can lengthen the magazine box.
That's exactly why the 284 wasen't as popular as it could have been when Winchester came out with it. They put it in a semi auto rifle with a short magazine box and action. Had to seat the bullet so far down in the case it never had a chance to show what it was really capable of.
The 284 is as good as any for a carry gun if you have a long action and can seat the bullet out where it should be. It will stay with the 280 anytime. As a matter of fact, the 284 has proven to be the wildcatters DREAM but, you must put it on an action where you can seat the bullet out where it shoud be.
DC
[ 12-17-2001: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ]