I just shot some groups with the 168's in 7mm and got pretty good results with 70 g of H1000 with a coal of 3.35. That is about .090 shorter than what I load Bergers but the Noslers seem to do better with more jump to the lands. I got 3 shots at just under an inch at 300 yards and less than 6 inches at 950 yards with 4 MOA of wind. The first time I shot Nosler LRs , I tried them out close to the lands like the Bergers and was over 1 MOA groups and was disappointed to say the least. After todays testing, I'm a lot happier! Getting right at 3000fps.