775 Yd. Coyote Just Yesterday!

[sscoyote]

Darn proud of this 1 even if it wasn't my gun-- this copied from predatormasters.com:

Got an old mangy dog @ 775 today. Have been working a little with a buddy's Nesika Bay Round action, big Mcmillan tactical type stock, and a BIG 26" Krieger (i think)-- 270 WSM. 8.5-25X Leupy target turrets. He's getting 3025 mv with a 140 Nosler BT, and it'll do 1.5" @ 300 pretty consistently.

Went out with mom today (she likes to spot some), and i'd previously zeroed the turret to 250, and just applied Exbal Ball. Calculator for 25 yd. interval clicks to 1000 for 50 degrees, SAP. It was about right for today's conditons out here. I went out east not far from Pueblo, parked the car close to a big basin, and walked to it's edge, with momma tagging along. We set up on the edge, and just glassed the basin-- nothing but a herd of antelope, so i howled figuring 1 might sit up , and take notice if they were out there sleeping during the midday heat. Sure enuf looked to my left, and there's a skinny old mangy critter 500 yds. out. He starts trotting away quartering, but the antelope saw him , and kept him on the move. Meanwhile i'm trying to range the dog, point him out to mom, run clicks, and track him off a small bench bipod. Finally the old dog stopped right when everything was set. He turns toward me 3/4ing, and i shot. I got back on him just in time to see his butt drop, and he fell over. Let out a big whoop, and mom figured i got him. I couldn't believe it. Bullet hit him in the chest, with a small exit out the left hindquarter, with a bunch of lung blood all around. 1st shot at a coyote out of this rig, and it connects @ 775. Man my buddy Jim might have to fight me to get this rig back.

 

[4ked Horn]

Good job. I just love it when it all comes together like that.

I took my mom (and dad) coyote hunting one time and although we didn't see any yotes my brother was able to shoot a badger through the nose (facing us) at about 100 yards with my Mini 14. My wife was talking to mom just the other day about our duck hunting season and mom mentioned that she wanted to go back out hunting again.

Anyway, again congrats on the coyote. BTW who walked out to get the coyote, you or did your mom "volunteer"? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Fiftydriver]

SS,

Great shot, a dog at 775 yards is a poke an a half.

Say, one of these days I will have to ship you one of my 257 AMs to test out with the 156 gr ULD. Did some velocity testing with that bullet yesterday, got 3350 fps comfortable. Thats with a +.800 B.C. bullet!!!

You interested?

Working with Lilja now to get the right twist tooled up for his barrels. Will be a little bit but coming soon. Will take the 1/4 bore out past 2000 yards supersonic!!!

Congrats on the shot.

Kirby Allen(50)

 

[Ernie]

Way to go buddy!!! Are you old enough to shoot a rifle that big /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Hey Kirby!
We just want you to know about the S.H.O.T.S. coming up in May. If you have any questions, just ask away. That 6.5 WSM & 338 WSM XP's would be a hoot on the field courses.

 

[Ernie]

BTW Kirby what would say would be the ideal/best LR Specialty Handgun (Cartridge)?

 

[Fiftydriver]

XP,

If you could get me locations and dates I will see what I can go. It would be alot of fun to get down with you guys so you could learn me how to shoot those handguns way out there!!!

About the ideal handgun cartridge, man thats a tuff one to define exactly. I assume with you we are talking 1000 yard capacbilites or more for Long Range Shooting.

It would have to be housed in an XP-100 for sure and be suitable for a barrel length in the 15 to 16 3/4" range. The larger the caliber the more velocity you will be getting inthe short barrels by being able to use faster burning powders. This is why the 338 WSM gets such impressive velocities.

Still, we need good B.C. numbers. At lest .650 and preferably in the .750 to .800 range. There are +.800 bullets out there but they are not real suitable for handgun length barrels.

Hows this for a poke at it. I would say something in the 300 WSM/7.82 Patriot on the small end up to say a 300 Dakota on the large end. Loaded with a 210 to 250 gr VLD or ULD in a 1-8 to 1-9 twist barrel with a 16 3/4" length and fitted with a Holland QD brake.

There are new Wildcat Bullets out now in the smaller calibers that offer some unreal B.C. numbers such as the 156 gr .257" ULD but I do not feel in a handgun they would be viable options. I feel a 308 or 338 bullet would be about tops in performance.

May have to talk with Richard to see if he will make a 250 gr ULD in 8mm and use the new 325 WSM. May be a good compromise between the 300 and 338 in the handguns.

To be honest, I have been dealing with a customer now for several months who desperately wants to buy both my 6.5mm and 338 WSM. I told him I would buildl him one of each but he does not want to wait for the actions.

I may sell my 338 to him just to get him off my back and then build a new one using the system I used on my 6.5mm with the machined Holland Comp Recoil Lug. I have been very happy with the performance of this system. Vastly stiffer then the factory lug.

Well, thats my guess, whats yours???

Good Shooting!!

Kirby Allen(50)

 

[sscoyote]

Thks. guys. Actually i forgot my camera, and had to go back out today to get the photos-- coyote was still in 1 piece, not too worse for the wear besides the mange, and it was BADDD i tell ya'. I doubt the dog would've lived much longer-- most of the hide on his rear was gone, and the tail had no fur at all on it. Hey 4KEE-- sent mom out to meet me at the coyote, whilst i went back for the truck. She hasn't gotten into carrying dogs back to the truck, but i just might send her 1 of my slings for carrying coyotes next Xmas, what do ya' thinks??

50 thks much for the offer, but with this seminar coming up in May I'm gonna have my hands full, and i couldn't do it justice. If u come to the seminar, it'd be nice to get your input. We won't be teaching u anything-- that much i know, but it'll be fun to do the roving silhouette courses, no doubt.

 

[royinidaho]

SSCoyote/Fifty

Impressive shot. Gives me hope. I'm shooting a 270 Win with super accuracy and ballistics that will match the WSM you shot. The Win is my "practice/deer/coyote" gun to build experience for when I get a long range thumper from Kirby. (saving my $)

Fifty: Read the post about you using a Mil-Dot Weaver with the reticle in the right focal plane. The scope I have "normal" american and has to be at 10X for 3.6" @ 100 and is 2.1" @ 18 power. The magazine report I read before I bought it stated that it was like the weaver but when it arrived it wasn't. Too impatient to shoot that new Lija, I didn't send it back. Been thinking about an second gen Mil Dot. However, would the weaver be "as good" by allowing a power adjustment without messing up the calibration?

Also any 277 ULDs on on the street. Have tried LR 135s and they work pretty well about 1" at 200 but have only shot about 20 of them. 130 Nosler BTs are going better than 3200. 140 Hornadys are right at 3200. According to SS's successful shot all that velocity isn't needed but I want to shoot muleys and yotes with the same load.

 

[Ernie]

Specialty Handgun Outdoorsman\'s Tactical Seminar

Fifty,
The Specialty Handgun Outdoorsman's Tactical Seminar (S.H.O.T.S.) is a 3-day seminar just Southeast of Pueblo, CO. This clinic will take place on May 26-28 (Thursday-Saturday) and it is for the specialty handgun hunter / varminter / shooter. This will primarily be a practical field shoot using field rests from field positions shooting at unknown distances on steel targets. Distances in field courses would begin at 150 yards and go out to around 500 yards. There will not be a lot of the 450-500 yard targets in the field courses, but just enough to stretch you to make it challenging and fun. There will also be some bench shooting to work on basic form and to get zero's set correctly (starting @ 100 yards on paper) and we will use the bench for some of the long-range shooting beyond 500 yards. Some will shoot even out to 1,000 yards from the prone position (your choice). You will need around 300 rounds for the amount of shooting you will be doing. You can bring more than one specialty handgun in fact we encourage it. The cost is two hundred dollars of which fifty dollars will be required as a nonrefundable deposit. You will pay the remaining amount ($150) on Thursday morning. You will be responsible for your own food and lodging. We are presently looking into discount rates for the seminar attendees. We'll be sending a syllabus, which will provide a complete breakdown on the shoot once it's completed to attendees. This information will cover all aspects of the shoot with information on what to bring and what to do beforehand to have your specialty handgun ready to go. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us.



Send and make check or money order out to Steve Hugel:
5115 Porthos Ct.
Pueblo, CO 81005
719-564-5609


Ernie Bishop
E-mail [email protected]
Home Phone 620-662-3669

 

[Fiftydriver]

SS,

No problem, I know you and XP are very busy getting ready for the seminar. Hope I can swing it this year. We will see. After the shoot, perhaps you would have time to play with one of my new barrel burners!!!

Good Shooting, post those pics of that dirty dog.

Kirby Allen(50)

 

[Fiftydriver]

Roy,

I love my three Weaver Tactical. Personally I feel that are as good a big game scope made for shooting out to at least the 1/2 mile mark.

To my eyes, the Weaver Tactical is at least as clear as the Mk4 Leupolds adn has been extremely accurate on my rifles.

The fact that you can go from 4.5x up to 14 power with the calibration never changing is simply amazing for the big game hunter. This allows you low light shooting, close range shooting and extreme range shooting without adjusting anything in your scope.

IF your looking for an interesting 277 long range bullet, check these out.

The bullets on the left are two 130 gr Ballistic Tips. The two on the right are two 169.5 gr ULDs from Wildcat Bullets. They sport a B.C. of .740!!!

They are built on a tapered jacket for use on big game at long range or up close.

Richard Graves send me some to test in my 270 Allen Mag which drives them to a solid 3300 fps with sub 1/2" groups. Have not been able to test them at long range yet though.

This rifle used a 1-8 twist barrel though so I do not know if they will stabilize in your 270 Win if it has a 1-10 twist.

If you want to try some e-mail me your address and I will ship a dozen down to you so you can test them.

My e-mail is:

[email protected]

You can also contact Wildcat Bullets at:

[email protected]

Richard will tell you all about his new 277 bullets.

Good Shooting!!!

Kirby Allen(50)

 

[royinidaho]

Sweet!!!!! All I need is the hemi. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Sent the address, you decide if its worth a go....

If I can seat them far enough out and shoot single shot, maybe can get enough of some kind of powder in there to get them to pass over the chrono. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[ajones]

Great shooting SS, I am new to this board, actually just signed up this am.I live west of you in Howard , Co. Coyote hunting is my passion and I am just starting out in the long range shooting. I look forward to visiting with you guys and learning more about ultra long range shooting. I am working on building a long range rifle, would love input on what rifle/caliber to start with. I was thinking of starting with a remington 7mm magnum as this is what i have on hand. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Fiftydriver]

Dogdinger,

Welcome to LRH, good to have you with us.

Your 7mm Rem Mag is a great long range round. With proper bullets it has full 1000 yard potential in a quality rifle. Since you have it you may as well try it out and see how it does.

You will learn that I am a Rem 700 nut so this is the receiver I would recommend to start with. Add to that a top end match barrel such as a Lilja which is my preferred barrel(there are many good ones) and bed everything in a quality stock, H-S Precision or McMillan for composites or some of the Laminated stocks work well after some wrok also.

What are your goals and uses for this rifle?

Will it be for walking or jsut sitting and shooting?

This will effect how the rifle should be built.

Good Shooting!!

Kirby Allen(50)