6mm Creedmoor first elk hunt

[jbur13]

6mm is limiting your distance big time. It's like taking a shot with a bow at 90 yards. Not a good idea.

 

[wfjames]

After watching the elk I've killed suck up multiple hits in the boiler room from 30cal 200gr Accubonds travelling over 3000fps at the muzzle, I doubt I'll take anything smaller on purpose. One was at 225yds and one at 275yds. Tough animals for sure.

 

[huntinfool18]

Heck ya that .041 makes a huge difference plus the extra 70-80gr of bullet weight and 2.5x the energy.

 

[RockyRandy]

Use the 6mm with a 108 ELD-M. Form would be proud.

Don't ever recommend a light target bullet ELDM with a light copper jacketed bullet to take an Elk.

 

[coop2564]

I would not go Elk hunting with .243 caliber gun if I had other options. If I had to, I would use all copper and keep shots under 300yds.

 

[Mickp7]

Sounds to me like you have a great excuse to add another tool to your gun cabinet.
Elk shots tend to be longer than most people are used to. It is not like deer hunting where most shots are under 100 yards. Where we hunt, the closest shot in the past 5 years was 200 yards, which is a chip shot for the west. Average was 400 with shots at 500 and 560. Regardless, I would highly recommend a magnum cartridge for your hunt.

 

[JAYgs8163]

The 6Creedmoor is not a substitute for the lack of common sense some have!

 

[d.downey24]

Shot placement is the key, just not in the shoulder, in the boiler room, if they can't breath they don't go far, or if the Hydraulic lines are broken they can't go either. Good luck

But that's not the end of the story. A "DRT" comes from compromising the CNS, not from the caliber of the bullet. A spinal or head shot from a 22 will kill an animal DRT, where a heart and lung shot from a 50 cal can lead to it running some distance. Knockdown power from centerfire hunting rifles doesn't exist in any practical sense. The difference between a 7mm and a 6mm is .041" which is less than the thickness of a penny, do you really think it matters that much? The conversation should start and end with bullet construction, shot placement, and impact velocity.

They all were shot behind the shoulder at pretty much the same distance. This is America and you can believe what you want to believe, I've taken around 250 big game animals from whitetail to Brown Bear with a 222 rem to a 338 RPM with all kinds of bullets Barnes, Nosler, Berger, Maker, Cutting Edge and Hammer. I've seen the results with my own eyes. With that said if I couldn't afford more than one gun to hunt with from East Coast to West Coast it be a 300 win mag. available ammo and for bullet versatility if you hand load,125 gr to 220 gr it wouldn't be a 6 mm for sure common sense. Also opinions are like ###holes everyone has one.

 

[d.downey24]

After watching the elk I've killed suck up multiple hits in the boiler room from 30cal 200gr Accubonds travelling over 3000fps at the muzzle, I doubt I'll take anything smaller on purpose. One was at 225yds and one at 275yds. Tough animals for sure.

You need to look at the gel test on YouTube them smaller bullets are hitting harder. .
Kinetic energy no longer exists.

 

[MOA or bust]

17Rem,
If your elk hunt is next year, build/buy yourself a 7mm or 30 cal rifle and use a bonded or mono metal bullet in case your shot is a little off. As stated by someone else, AN ELK DESERVES YOUR RESPECT.
It took three shots from a 28 Nosler to put the bull I got this year down for good.

 

[MT-JONAS]

Use the 6mm with a 108 ELD-M. Form would be proud.

I've got a question.
Why would anyone who promotes a radical idea such as using 6mm and .22 cals for big game be unwilling to put his real name on the idea?

I've listened to podcasts "Form" has done and in my view he should either give his real name like a real man or stop promoting this drivel.

Anyone who regularly hunts elk knows how hard you sometimes work to harvest one. And when presented with a hard quartering to shot at 35 yards you are going to say "no, no don't take that shot, your bullet may not be right to kill cleanly from this angle"?

Some may think that scenario is a gimme. I'd ask if you've ever actually handled all the elk bones from the top of the shoulder to the knee. The short 10-12" knuckle bone directly below the shoulder blade is STOUT on an elk.

Use something more than a 6mm unless you are happy with tag soup.

 

[2BrownDogs]

Heck ya that .041 makes a huge difference plus the extra 70-80gr of bullet weight and 2.5x the energy.

Energy is not an indicator of killing capability. If energy mattered, people couldn't kill animals with arrows, that have less than 5% the energy of bullets fired from centerfire rifles. 1. Does the bullet go where it needs to go to create enough blood loss via vital tissue damage to induce incapacitation? 2. Does the bullet have enough impact velocity to upset based on its design?

 

[Jim Kellogg]

Ive hunted all my life with a 243 my Dad bought me when i was 16. Shot a lot of Black Tail, Black bears and Antelope but never an Elk. My Rem 700 is gone but now i have a 6mm Creedmoor. TS Customs. 1x7.5. I've mostly loaded 90 gr Scirocco ll and dont see a reason to change. I will be going on my first Elk hunt this year. I guess i could borrow my brother in laws 7mm Rem Mag but im so use to and confident in the 6 mm. Your thoughts

You should do just find with the 6mm creedmoor. My friends two daughters killed elk with a 243 win. & 6mm remington. Shot placement is the whole story.

 

[d.downey24]

I've got a question.
Why would anyone who promotes a radical idea such as using 6mm and .22 cals for big game be unwilling to put his real name on the idea?

I've listened to podcasts "Form" has done and in my view he should either give his real name like a real man or stop promoting this drivel.

Anyone who regularly hunts elk knows how hard you sometimes work to harvest one. And when presented with a hard quartering to shot at 35 yards you are going to say "no, no don't take that shot, your bullet may not be right to kill cleanly from this angle"?

Some may think that scenario is a gimme. I'd ask if you've ever actually handled all the elk bones from the top of the shoulder to the knee. The short 10-12" knuckle bone directly below the shoulder blade is STOUT on an elk.

Use something more than a 6mm unless you are happy with tag soup.

You're not understanding what they're saying, they only shoot them in the boiler room the 6 mm doesn't hit anywhere else but the boiler room. You can't make this stuff up. I can't even believe it's a conversation on any site.