Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen plenty of elk take it thru the shoulder and watch them wander around, I've not found the heralded shoulder shot to be all that effective in putting and elk down right now.
I've seen many elk hit the turf via the behind the shoulder shot. Use a hard bullet (TTSX, Hammer etc) and yeah you can see some wobble around a bit as well. However use a bullet such as the NBT, Sierra BT or HPBT, the Bergers and Scenars and you'll find a goodly share of the arm pit shot elk bouncing at the shot.
To your questioning me regarding my choice of the 6.5 PRC over the RUM's I'll say this. I won't run a brake, I won't carry a gun over 9 lbs all up (sling, rounds, scoped). And I way prefer the weight to be in the 7.5-8 lbs "all up".
You're a Wyo guy as is Memtb, Laker and I aren't that far north. Let's get together and shoot a bit and naturally Memtb's wife is welcome with her 338 as well. I'll bring a 6.5 PRC and you can bring a 8-9 lb all up 300 Ultra (no brakes) and we can do some shooting. Grill some elk burgs and or I can bring some buff burgers and we can have a good old time. Might be kind of fun eh
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I'd love to watch old one gun Memtb and his wife run their 375 AI and 338. And they can watch Laker and I shoot our little rat guns. You can gun your Ultra.
Ideally we could find some good chuck colony's to work over and or a good riddled with rocks below us, above us and at all ranges. We can shoot some offhand, sitting and off the deck. You guys can shoot off your knee's as well, I'll pass though as after 7 knee surgeries including each replaced I don't shoot off them anymo.
Just a wild idea as a way to have some fun. I'd love to learn from you guys and your big guns.
Side note, I used a 340 Wby a ton load, one off a 700 and one a 70. Burned up both barrels and said no mas. I found zero none, nada difference in how they took down elk when compared to my 270 and 7 Mashburn Super.
All in in this is all good fun eh
(now if the Nugs would take care of the Lakers tonight...)