So I have a Rem sendero sfll and im going to have rebuilt after elk season in November and im trying to decide on another 300RUM or just step up to the 338?? I have been really pleased with the performance of the 230 OTM out of the RUM but since I live in elk country I don't want to rule out the 338. I have the 230's moving 3035 and from what I have read I could get the 300g going 2800 or so out of the edge.. I will be using a Brux 27" barrel. Just looking for some thoughts. I do have a new 8lbs of Retumbo which I use for the 300 and know the 338 seems to do best with H1000, which is hard to come buy these days.
300RUM or 338EDGE?
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MontanaRifleman
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I would say it's totally personal preference. The 338 will be a better elk killer than the 300 and the only cost difference will be the small difference in cost of bullets.
Also, the EDGE has better brass available, but you could always neck that down too 300 RUM as well.
Can't think of a reason not to step up other than personal preference.
Also, the EDGE has better brass available, but you could always neck that down too 300 RUM as well.
Can't think of a reason not to step up other than personal preference.
MontanaRifleman
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Let me add, that if I was going to step up to a 338 it would be a Lapua Imp.
Is the Bertram brass that much better than Nosler?? I have had nothing but Nosler in the 300 and it is very consistent in every way.
MontanaRifleman
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I have no experience with Nosler or the new Bertram brass, But Shawn claims it will last 5 times longer than the RP brass and says it much better than the RP and Nosler brass.
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/338-edge-match-brass-finally-103526/
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No Fear in Accuracy
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300 RUM will still hit hard at elk anyway.
As for brass, it depends how often do you shoot? 50 to 100 times per year, then go for Nosler.
If you shoot often then get a quality brass like Lapua and reloading it to 5-8 times.
As for brass, it depends how often do you shoot? 50 to 100 times per year, then go for Nosler.
If you shoot often then get a quality brass like Lapua and reloading it to 5-8 times.
I don't know much about the .338 edge but I too have been running a .300 rum and love the gun. I also have a long range 7mm that has log elk kills @ 988, 902, 510 yds. The 7 has no trouble killing elk @ those ranges. The .300 rum has much more knock down than the 7 so unless you plan on shooting a mile .300 rum all the way. I have compared steel plates @ 700, 800, 900, 1000, 1175 on the 7 and .300 rum. The difference in bullet energy is obvious on which bullet lays down the smack @ all those ranges. .300 rum. So the magic question is how dead is dead?
ultraedge
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Retumbo will work fine in the EDGE. Barrel life with a .338 EDGE should greatly exceed barrel life in .300 RUM. 30" barrel length would be better in either. You will need a muzzlebrake with the .338 if you plan on using 300gr bullets. With my .300RUM's a brake is not necessary. Gary
500mag_guy
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I have no experience with the 338 edge. Often thought about it but every time I drop an elk or deer on the spot I ask myself... Why.. As many others have said, how dead is dead when it comes to a dead elk down.
In my opinion the 230gr pill was built around the RUM
The 300 rum is capable of shooting some pretty good distances with retailing some amazing energy. So I figure if it'll smoke a an elk at 1200 yards and drop it upon impact.. Good enough for my hunting. You?
In my opinion the 230gr pill was built around the RUM
The 300 rum is capable of shooting some pretty good distances with retailing some amazing energy. So I figure if it'll smoke a an elk at 1200 yards and drop it upon impact.. Good enough for my hunting. You?
lhouston78
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The edge will carry more energy, but as people have stated how dead is dead. I have had 2 edges, 2 338 rums, one 300 rum and now have a 338 lapua imp and to tell the truth it does not matter. I carry my 280ai more than I do the others anyways. The 338 barrel should last longer also.
MontanaRifleman
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Actually, if you consider barrel life, the EDGE will be a little cheaper to shoot. The EDGE is the same case as the 300 RUM. Same powder consumption. Only the bullets cost more - $.55 per vs $.76 per.
The Bertram brass is more expensive but will last longer and probably will be a savings in the long run. But, you can use it for both chamberings.
The Lapua has a couple gr more capacity than the EDGE and the Improved version has a little more yet, depending on how you spec your Imp version, maybe up to 6 or 7 gr more over the standard Lapua. It is also shorter which makes it easier to build and load for a repeater.
Last, there is a significant killing difference between the big 338's and the 300 RUM. The difference is basically summed up in that the 338 uses a 338 cal bullet of 300 grains vs a 308 cal bullet of 230 gr. This is from a 300 RUM owner. I am very comfortable with the 300 RUM killing elk past 1 K, but there is no question that the big 338 will do it it better.
