300prc

[FURMAN]

Thank you all for your Input.
My initial thought was a Savage storm in..... cal.
I like adjustable stock ,trigger,aluminum bedding,floating bold head, barrel change i can do myself and LH.
I am intrigued by the 300prc (correct me if I am wrong) which means longer throat and faster twist to accommodate the heavy bullets.
Does this cartridge require a longer action than the Savage storm?
I dont want to go to exotic in calibers since I have many hungry mouths (rifles) to feed and may not want to reload for it.
This has to be a LH rifle as well.
Ps :I do have a 338 06 die set but no rifle lol
and also a 350 RM in a FN Mauser (so I can seat the bullets out to where they belong) but its a RH.
anyways........
Martin

Every long action savage I have owned has been around 3.5-3.6". I may have missed it but I dont see where Savage is chambering the 300 PRC. I would think they would have to make some magazine system changes. I would not own one with the mag box limitations.

 

[FURMAN]

I got mixed up, I remember Dave Tooley saying 3.73 .010 off the lands.
I'm not to familiar with savage mag box length so I guess the O.P needs to take that into consideration.

He has been shooting the cartridge for around 10 years. You probably did read that with a different freebore. In my SAAMI chamber the 225 touches lands at 3.734.

 

[elkaholic]

Every long action savage I have owned has been around 3.5-3.6". I may have missed it but I dont see where Savage is chambering the 300 PRC. I would think they would have to make some magazine system changes. I would not own one with the mag box limitations.

they make their short actions longer than normal and their long actions shorter

 

[dfanonymous]

I quote it because it is THE industry standard. Unless you are going custom it is what every manufacturer that I am aware of uses. The tolerances are for mechanical imperfections and varying bullets. You and I could order two of the same reamer from two different makers and I gaurantee they would not cut the exact same freebore. Everything made by humans has a tolerance. It does not change the fact that they use SAAMI. You imply they are cutting with different specd reamers.

No I stated that Remington typically used longer throats. They are still SAAMI spec. YOU are the one going off on a tangent about SAAMI, which is beside the point. No one is talking about "special" barrels with custom reamers.

 

[elkaholic]

He has been shooting the cartridge for around 10 years. You probably did read that with a different freebore. In my SAAMI chamber the 225 touches lands at 3.734.[/QUOTE
I think you and L. Sherm are correct on the FB!
Hornady makes their ammo at 3.685" so thats where the difference is.

they're jumping it about .060"

 

[FURMAN]

No I stated that Remington typically used longer throats. They are still SAAMI spec. YOU are the one going off on a tangent about SAAMI, which is beside the point. No one is talking about "special" barrels with custom reamers.

Exactly and that IS NOT TRUE. They order SAAMI reamers just like everyone else. Think what you want I don't have time to argue with you.

Call a reamer maker and tell them you want a SAAMI reamer. THEY WILL NOT ASK DIMENSIONS. The tolerance is for machining tolerance not so you can dictate what reamer dimension you want. The 300 PRC for example has .232" freebore with a length tolerance of +.015(.38mm) period. Moving on.

 

[MagnumManiac]

Interesting, SAAMI membership is VOLUNTARY, there is no LAW present that REQUIRES firearm or ammunition makers adhere to ANYTHING SAAMI may list.

SAAMI specs are often not used in many factory chamberings.

Number of grooves, throat dimensions/lengths and twist are often very different to what SAAMI says.

Just like the original specs for Weatherby throats have not been added to SAAMI.
Those cases were proprietary for so long that only recent (late 80's) throat lengths were submitted after Weatherby decided that .375" was more efficient than the original .500" used in all but the .750" used in the 378/460 Weatherby cartridges.

Nobody HAS to adhere to SAAMI spec, they CAN if they wish, ask Dave Manson or any other reamer manufacturer.

Cheers.

 

[FURMAN]

they're jumping it about .060"

Not the case in my SAAMI chamber. The loaded ammo is 3.66" with my lot and is actually very consistent. Too bad it will not shoot in my rifle.

 

[elkaholic]

Not the case in my SAAMI chamber. The loaded ammo is 3.66" with my lot and is actually very consistent. Too bad it will not shoot in my rifle.

So theyre jumping it even more in your chamber/ammo combo!

 

[FURMAN]

Interesting, SAAMI membership is VOLUNTARY, there is no LAW present that REQUIRES firearm or ammunition makers adhere to ANYTHING SAAMI may list.

SAAMI specs are often not used in many factory chamberings.





Number of grooves, throat dimensions/lengths and twist are often very different to what SAAMI says.

Just like the original specs for Weatherby throats have not been added to SAAMI.
Those cases were proprietary for so long that only recent (late 80's) throat lengths were submitted after Weatherby decided that .375" was more efficient than the original .500" used in all but the .750" used in the 378/460 Weatherby cartridges.

Nobody HAS to adhere to SAAMI spec, they CAN if they wish, ask Dave Manson or any other reamer manufacturer.

Cheers.

You are absolutely correct and I am sure some do and most certainly do with twists and other dimensions. The last time I spoke with Remington, Nosler, Christensen, Fierce, Gunwerks, Ruger, I may have missed one... They were all using SAAMI throats.


Missed Savage and Cooper

 

[FURMAN]

So theyre jumping it even more in your chamber/ammo combo!

Yep.

 

[L.Sherm]

Magnum is correct saami is not law, it's only a standard for the industry.
But Furman is correct alot of Smith's use saami spec reamers.
It's why I prefer my own reamers.

 

[dfanonymous]

Exactly and that IS NOT TRUE. They order SAAMI reamers just like everyone else. Think what you want I don't have time to argue with you.

Call a reamer maker and tell them you want a SAAMI reamer. THEY WILL NOT ASK DIMENSIONS. The tolerance is for machining tolerance not so you can dictate what reamer dimension you want. The 300 PRC for example has .232" freebore with a length tolerance of +.015(.38mm) period. Moving on.

Since you won't hear my point that some companies have different tolerances, than listen to the rest of the world.

I've measured my seating depth on enough remingtons to be confident in my statement.

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/rem-700-throat-length.3136415/


https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/remington-700-long-throat.6317457/

http://forum.snipershide.com/threads/remington-700p-throat-question.39992/#js-post-997733

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/rem-700-with-long-throat.668528/

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/long-freebore-rem-700-308.732903/

http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?57427-Remington-Throat-Length

 

[FURMAN]

I usually spec my own reamer, specifically the throat. This is where Hornady is destroying the competition. The factory throats are just better and they are pushing the magazine limitations which will make rifle manufacturers adjust.