Well gentleman I finally did it I shot at 100 yds this morning with some new loads first I used RL 22 75.0 grs.with horandy spire point and nosler BT seated at 3.340. I shot 1/4 in. groups. with both style bullets. Next I tried IMR 4350 71.5 grs.shot just a hair under 3/4 in groups,using the same two bullets. I'm so pleased and how all of yous helped out. Thanks again Terry <font color="yellow"> </font> [/list]