I m not putting a 243 down, it's just not for me. Part of the problems I had was bullet choice. Figured if I stepped up from a 223 to a 243 I could take body shots,but every one that had any size ran off if I took a body shot.Went back to head shots with a 223. I 've also shot some 243s that kicked just as much as some 25/06s. But to each their own. I still think it's a good little round and have considered getting another since I have dies,lots of brass and bullets.