Thanks.
My one experience was positive. 600 yards broadside no shouler. 8 twist 3109 FPS MV.
Wobble and down.
QUOTE="loonie, post: 1681775, member: 59678"]7 Saum 8 twist 2970. 420 yards off bipod, shot a bull standing broadside dead center in the shoulder instead of rib shot. Wanted it to drop were he was standing! He just stood there. I figured he would flop over after a minute. when he turned around like he was going to walk I shot him on the other side. Again he just stood there. Then I shot him in the neck, hit a little low under neck bone and he just walked behind a tree and stood there. layed down after awhile and took 20 minutes to die. I couldn't get another bullet in him behind the tree. Could see the holes in him thru scope when he was standing. one of them big like it exploded on impact. Other shot got one lung, not enough bullet left to get both of them. I believe they are too fragile for elk. He should of been dead on first shot !! Would like to hear results of he 175 EH on elk. Shot a lot of elk with the 180 vld. Most of the time they work good but once in awhile they don't seem to open up enough ![/QUOTE]