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Sounds like you could use a sherpa??K4 all the way. One thing I noticed was a game changer during packout of two bulls and a cow elk this year was that when packing meat/quarters in the load shelf it has its own stabilization/cinch straps separate from the pack portion and the system is simple. So when you buckle your pack down on top of your meat load you don't lose the functionality of your pack accessibility or anything strapped to it like your rifle/tripod AND it significantly stabilizes the load to prevent shifting weight. If that makes sense. Also I ran kuiu for a few years and did a heavy packout (100+lbs) of a bighorn sheep around 20 miles out of the frank. At one point we traded packs so I could see how my buddy's k4 felt loaded down. Came home and sold my pack immediately. I don't know which was worse…how much better his felt or how miserable it was to put mine back on! K4 handles heavy like a dream. Now heavy pack-outs are fun.
I've never had a MR guide lite mt frame/pack get wobbly on me…and I only do expedition distance pack outs. Gutless method butchering in the field, miles of hiking, the whole thing.Thanks. That's awesome to hear and give me a little hope. Exo and Kifaru are both within my price range but the current offerings of bags aren't necessarily ideal for my needs. MR has the bags that fit my needs but I'm not paying $1000+ for a pack that gets wobbly at super high weights. My NICE frame is miserable when packing out a medium sized animal in one trip. Last year on the pack out my ruck weighed 152lbs not counting my rifle and my frame was not happy. I'm researching now (I haven't found anything yet) to see if either EXO or Kifaru frames can be made to work with an ALICE style interface (11"-12" wide) since I have a few bags in that style.
I whole heartedly agree but I can tell you mine definitely does. It's a 2009 frame so I'm not sure where it falls in the generations. The frame flexes side to side with when you're walking. It basically feels like you have a 150 lb water tank on your back sloshing around. I agree, it's probably well above the weight rating and it's probably been above the weight rating for most of its life. On deployments it pretty much was never under 80lbs and most days would be around 100lbs with both my weapons, ammo, chow, optics, layers, etc. I was issued a much newer Overload some years back, and it seemed to do pretty well at 100lbs w/ a M240 laid across the top. I was upset when I had to give it back. This is part of the reason I'm looking to replace my current pack. I just think it's wore out. Some of the stitching that has been repaired was around the stays and may be a contributing factor. One of the stays actually came completely out the frame and I had to put it back in about 7 or 8 years ago.I've never had a MR guide lite mt frame/pack get wobbly on me…and I only do expedition distance pack outs. Gutless method butchering in the field, miles of hiking, the whole thing.
That's coming from a guy that has a exo on in his profile photo here…I don't have a dog in this.
You could go hunting with a fanny pack and a 5 gallon Home Depot bucket for all I care, I'm just saying, I've had pretty much every MR pack in the last decade and not one that was adjusted properly had a issue.
The new military used ones arent the same as the old. The closest to the hunting ones is big D's special blend…they have since made a bunch of commercial packs similar to that Dana design of old.
The SATL ones are not made for just walking about. The bolsters are for use with a plate carrier. Most of us don't hunt with a plate carrier. Most of these packs are for minor sustainment.
There's a weight rating that is very literal. 150 lbs is above the rating for pretty much all of them. The OG nice frame I'm pretty sure was rated to like 60 lbs…the new ones are only said to "stabilize weight surpassing 100lbs." That could mean 102 lbs and it's done.