30 carbine bolt action

cohunt said:

What would you use it for? I've owned an m1 carbine for 35 years and love it--- but it's super hard to find exposed lead nose or hp bullets for reloading for hunting purposes --- its pretty much fmj or plated that's available.

I guess with a bolt action you could load spire point if you single load but a mag fed bolt gun would really limit your oal

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We've had no real issues in finding 30 caliber 100 and 110 grain SP and HP for use in the 30 Carbine. I just checked a couple of online suppliers, and they have both in stock. We used a lot of Speer and Sierra through the years.

Years back, a young family member, aged 7 then, began using his dad's M1 Carbine for deer hunting, and he took his first little buck with that rifle with a 110 SP handload.

He also said that he built a 22 spitfire on a Sako L46. So I am thinking that it is not a L46. But I am not sure

Greatgrandad said:

We've had no real issues in finding 30 caliber 100 and 110 grain SP and HP for use in the 30 Carbine. I just checked a couple of online suppliers, and they have both in stock. We used a lot of Speer and Sierra through the years.

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I was about to say. I shoot these in my 300blk bolt gun. They do well at 300blk velocities and they're cheap!

If you really want to build one.

Starting from a Savage 25 22-Hornet.

Open the bolt face 0.010
Rebarrel and chamber per desire.
Adjust the feed.

I was going to use the Savage a different way. A bolt action 5.7x28 FN and make .172 and .204 versions.

I have a TC Contender 17 Mach 2 to rechamber.
I did 1 mock up case in 17/5.7x28

How close is the 17/5.7x28 to the 17 ccm

Loads for the 22 Spitfire: 40gr bullet, SR primer, best powder I found was Shooter World SBR SOCOM but Alliant 300MP and AA 1680 work well, too. Other powders in that burn range work well too I'm sure.

I love the .30 carbine cartridge; it's just plain fun. I've hunted small orchard whitetail with it. I never took one, but a buddy of mine has taken a few with his M1 .30 Carbine. I think two. Both were under 50 yards as I recall. He said one dropped with the first shot, and the second the next season took two rounds to drop. As for the rifles, I know that guy (a Sheriff) turned one into .357 Mags it seems they work quite well.
From a carbine length rifle barrel .30 Carbine factory loads drive 110-grain RN bullets at a muzzle velocity of 1,990 fps. Muzzle energy is 977 ft. lbs. At 100 yards the little bullet is traveling at 1,567 fps and still has 600 ft. lbs. of energy. The .357 Mag respectively with a 158gr at 1830 - 1175 ft. lbs. ME, 715 ft. lbs. at 100 yds in a carbine.
At any rate, it's a fun rifle and I bet it's a hoot in a little bolt action.
Oh, I also have a Ruger Blackhawk 7.5" barrel in .30 Carbine, fun... but man... is it loud!

436 said:

I love the .30 carbine cartridge; it's just plain fun. I've hunted small orchard whitetail with it. I never took one, but a buddy of mine has taken a few with his M1 .30 Carbine. I think two. Both were under 50 yards as I recall. He said one dropped with the first shot, and the second the next season took two rounds to drop. As for the rifles, I know that guy (a Sheriff) turned one into .357 Mags it seems they work quite well.
From a carbine length rifle barrel .30 Carbine factory loads drive 110-grain RN bullets at a muzzle velocity of 1,990 fps. Muzzle energy is 977 ft. lbs. At 100 yards the little bullet is traveling at 1,567 fps and still has 600 ft. lbs. of energy. The .357 Mag respectively with a 158gr at 1830 - 1175 ft. lbs. ME, 715 ft. lbs. at 100 yds in a carbine.
At any rate, it's a fun rifle and I bet it's a hoot in a little bolt action.
Oh, I also have a Ruger Blackhawk 7.5" barrel in .30 Carbine, fun... but man... is it loud!

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My brother had a 3 screw Blackhawk 30 Carbine he bought in the early 1970's, and we shot a fair amount of mil surplus ammo through it plus some handloads. I have to agree, that thing was more ear splitting than my 357. I remember taking it out to deer hunt and shooting at a nice 8 point buck, and when that thing went off without hearing protection while hunting, the muzzle flash in the woods and blast took all my attention away from the deer. Which I missed.

Greatgrandad said:

My brother had a 3 screw Blackhawk 30 Carbine he bought in the early 1970's, and we shot a fair amount of mil surplus ammo through it plus some handloads. I have to agree, that thing was more ear splitting than my 357. I remember taking it out to deer hunt and shooting at a nice 8 point buck, and when that thing went off without hearing protection while hunting, the muzzle flash in the woods and blast was took all my attention away from the deer. Which I missed.

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I agree, it's loud!! but fun to shoot, with very little recoil for that punch. Cheers

Made the mistake of shooting a .30 Carbine Blackhawk at night. Once. Holy Mother of Fireballs!!! dB-wise I don't think it's any louder that other revolvers, but the small bore moves the sound frequency into a higher pitch, which I think tends to go thru hearing protection easier. The fireball is a little smaller with a 10" Contender barrel, but I don't recall it being any less loud.

Still really Jonesing for a Fulton Armory .30 Carbine......

Varmiter71 said:

How close is the 17/5.7x28 to the 17 ccm

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the 17 cooper centerfire mangnum holds ~9.7 H2O
the 17/57x28 holds ~14.2 H2O

Savage no longer lists a 25 in 5.7x28 so the whole project is now harder.

ntsqd said:

Made the mistake of shooting a .30 Carbine Blackhawk at night. Once. Holy Mother of Fireballs!!! dB-wise I don't think it's any louder that other revolvers, but the small bore moves the sound frequency into a higher pitch, which I think tends to go thru hearing protection easier. The fireball is a little smaller with a 10" Contender barrel, but I don't recall it being any less loud.

Still really Jonesing for a Fulton Armory .30 Carbine......

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Yep, that night shooting with a .30 carbine pistol is crazy bright... "Jonesing for a Fulton Armory .30 Carbine" I don't blame you they are a hoot!
Mine; is a Military issue Inland Div. in mint condition and shoots great, most don't, well I mean, not as well. Use good ammo and you can be... minute of "Beer can" at 100 yards.
Good luck. Cheers

High school buddy inherited a Inland from his step-dad. It wasn't super accurate, but it was a lot of fun to shoot.

I think that were I going to build a .30 bolt action that I'd use the Howa Mini .223 Rem as my starting point, but then I'm rather partial to them. Even better if I could get it to feed from a Carbine magazine like the rifle that started this thread.