Ckleeves
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I'm not using either of those but they were quick and easy to find.
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6mm Creedmoor first elk hunt
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I'm not using either of those but they were quick and easy to find.
memtb
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While I must confess to never shooting "gel" in self defense nor for fun, I have no trouble shooting full length (end to end) on a mature elk.
Barnes .375 cal, 270 grain TSX @ near 3K mv…..elk at approximately 80 yrds! A numerous elk, a moose, some deer and Pronghorn……no bullet recoveries, with a pretty adequate wound channel. It wasn't actually measured…..but was pretty substantial! memtb
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7 states 3 countries shaaaaawow Thats awesome good for you buddy
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Ckleeves
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As crazy as it may sound I would take a 6 Creed on an elk at 600 vs that setup. TSX impacting at 1675 fps (at my elevation, YMMV) vs a ELDM impacting at 2250 fps (once again at my elevation). Half the wind drift with the little six too.
Not saying it's my first choice, or that 6mm's are the end all be all but there are far worse choices out there then a 6mm with the correct bullet carried by a guy who can shoot it well from any position and isn't scared of it and shot hundreds of rounds leading up to the hunt because practicing with a suppressed 6 is a real fun and cheap time.
memtb
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That was a previous time with the TSX….the only one I could confirm. Since then it's been 250 TTSX's all exits, no end to end shots to verify penetration. Now a 270 LRX @ 3000 + with no kills yet, but I'd be pretty disappointed if I couldn't get 48" of penetration. I actually hope to never have to prove or disprove that…..but, I fervently believe that it's very doable!
At the elevations and temperatures @ which we hunt, my 270 LRX should be moving just shy of 2100 @ 600….which coincidentally is the maximum range that I'll ever consider shooting a game animal! memtb
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waspocrew
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I don't think anyone is arguing you should take a 1,000 yard shot on big game with a 22 Creed, 6 Creed, etc.
The notion that elk are indestructible and require magnum cartridges to kill just isn't true. Again, all of the "what if's" can keep going over and over and over.
What I don't get is when someone posts: "My wife or 12 year old child drew an elk tag - what would you recommend?" Answers always end up as: 243, 6.5 Creed, 7-08! Then a guy poses the same question and gets: "Grow a pair! you need a 300 Win, 338 RUM, 7 mag, etc to kill elk. Have some respect for elk!"
Know your rifle (whatever it's chambered in) and know your own personal limitations.
The notion that elk are indestructible and require magnum cartridges to kill just isn't true. Again, all of the "what if's" can keep going over and over and over.
What I don't get is when someone posts: "My wife or 12 year old child drew an elk tag - what would you recommend?" Answers always end up as: 243, 6.5 Creed, 7-08! Then a guy poses the same question and gets: "Grow a pair! you need a 300 Win, 338 RUM, 7 mag, etc to kill elk. Have some respect for elk!"
Know your rifle (whatever it's chambered in) and know your own personal limitations.
waspocrew
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For your reading pleasure (or to make your blood boil):
70+ pages with plenty of photos regarding 6mm use on big game.
rokslide.com
70+ pages with plenty of photos regarding 6mm use on big game.
6mm /.243 hunting success on Big Game
Post in thread '6mm /.243 hunting success on Big Game' https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/6mm-243-hunting-success-on-big-game.284525/post-3372382 Much better with the link added. List doesn't include the 95 NBT, but has been brought up numerous times as a great option. Especially for non LRH...
rokslide.com
memtb
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Plus…..know the reasonable expectations/capabilities of your chosen cartridge/bullet, which may not reach your capabilities ……whatever they may be! memtb
Here's my 16.5" 6 RSAUM, incredibly accurate with 108 ELD-M and 115 DTACs, a pleasure to shoot and hunt deep backcountry with.
clark33
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I love those NXS 2.5-10s and the TBAC, very similar to my 6 creed setup minus the folding chassis.
This is the 6 Creedmoor, 18"
Doghunter23
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I think I understand what you are saying here. Can we just stress that people use actual empirical evidence based decisions. Buy a chronograph, download ballistic software. And verify that information against real world verified drop data. If you know how much energy you have at each range you can make educated decisions on how far you can shoot effectively.
The quick rule of thumb I have always heard is 1000FTLBS for deer and 1500FTLBS for elk.
This limits me to 200 yards for deer with the 223 AR for example.
fseaman
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akmtnhnt
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But there's no basis whatsoever for those energy numbers. They're just pulled out of someone who's long dead's butt.
Just make sure you have the velocity upon impact for the bullet to properly upset like it's designed to do. Brain death via either no oxygen because no blood pressure or no saturation or a direct disruption of it is ultimately how every animal we shoot dies. It's why broadheads kill so well despite extremely low energy.
