Fan or not it kills just as good as any other shot if you are using the right bullet
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memtb
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However, it can make it to the heart…..depending upon the bullet path angle and the bullet construction!I learned a long time ago not to take for granted what someone else knows or doesn't know.
To be honest, I knew from experience what happens when you take that shot and the bullet doesn't make it to the heart. But I never really thought about the effects of hydrostatic shock vs hydraulic shock on the guts until he covered it in the video.
In my previous example, had the bullet path been on a slightly different angle…..the heart could've been "perforated" as the bullet continued on toward it's 3rd hide penetration and passing through the elk's upper foreleg muscle!
And…..this bullet was fully expanded. Had it "not" fully expanded…..it may still be traveling! 
Bullet construction and sectional density have a great deal to do with penetration…..or lack thereof!
memtb
Gday
Interesting on Texas shots
Interesting on headshots
Now let's take that a step further
Interesting on longrange
Yes they are no different
Know your limits of executing correctly & with the correct pill for those 3 things above it's no different
Now we enter emotion or egos & things will go wrong with ea & everyone of those 3
Learn from the best we know & what they do to lessen the risk & address it in a truthful manner of our own capabilities
That to me is the sensible thing to do as if it's outside of one's comfort zone one should imo learn & practice before one takes that next step on a critter
But that's me & I also try to keep out of bingo raffles & Murphy I dislike but he shows up that's for sure but less these days as I stay in my comfort zones in the field more these days than I use to
Jm2cw
Cheers
Interesting on Texas shots
Interesting on headshots
Now let's take that a step further
Interesting on longrange
Yes they are no different
Know your limits of executing correctly & with the correct pill for those 3 things above it's no different
Now we enter emotion or egos & things will go wrong with ea & everyone of those 3
Learn from the best we know & what they do to lessen the risk & address it in a truthful manner of our own capabilities
That to me is the sensible thing to do as if it's outside of one's comfort zone one should imo learn & practice before one takes that next step on a critter
But that's me & I also try to keep out of bingo raffles & Murphy I dislike but he shows up that's for sure but less these days as I stay in my comfort zones in the field more these days than I use to
Jm2cw
Cheers
30 years ago, I made a Texas heart shot on a nice buck around 300 yards as he was chasing a doe. 7 Rem mag, with 160g Nosler solid base lead tip at 3050 fps. He plowed the ground with his nose, dead. Those were some tough bullets.
I take a fair amount of running shots if the situation is right and I don't think the animal will stop. Hogs are a primary example. At the first shot they bolt. In whatever direction they are pointed. It's like kicking the top off of an ant bed. Running shots just come with the job I've been asked to do and I have become fairly proficient at it out to 100 yards. I won't take the shot unless they are in the wide open where I can follow them with the scope afterwards looking for any signs of a hit. Lots of times with a hit you can tell by the color change in the thermal due to the blood spot. Especially on deer. Other times they will begin slowing down or their gait will be off. I caught a couple of does broadside this year smack in the middle of the hindquarters. Not enough forward allowance unfortunately. Both shots broke bone, got the femoral artery, and exited. If you catch the femoral they don't go far at all. But as soon as I see a sign of a hit like that I get another one into them as quick as possible.
Where I live is as flat as a pancake. I've always thought that if there were hills around it would be great practice shooting a rolling tire with cardboard stapled to it for a target. I have however practiced quite a bit with a 22 shooting clay rabbit targets thrown from a trap by wireless remote. You have to be careful and choose a good safe spot but it's good practice. A bit off topic I know so I apologize ahead of time.
Where I live is as flat as a pancake. I've always thought that if there were hills around it would be great practice shooting a rolling tire with cardboard stapled to it for a target. I have however practiced quite a bit with a 22 shooting clay rabbit targets thrown from a trap by wireless remote. You have to be careful and choose a good safe spot but it's good practice. A bit off topic I know so I apologize ahead of time.
wvbearhunter
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For me, personally, I would never shoot an animal through the rear. Any deflection and you are cleaning out blown out guts, no thank you. I prefer neck shots, I know some folks do not like those either but I have never lost an animal that was neck shot. Granted until this year all my shots were under 125 yards. Its been a decade or more since I shot past that range. My 500 yard doe this year was an anomoly.
My son likes head shots and is really good at making them but I wont take those either. I would rather not shoot at an animal than take a less than ideal shot
My son likes head shots and is really good at making them but I wont take those either. I would rather not shoot at an animal than take a less than ideal shot
HARPERC
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Some places you won't see the front of an animal, if you aren't willing to shoot at the rear.
Depending on factors of range, species, how they move, etc. The top of the tail gets the spine more reliably.
A friend shot his once in a lifetime moose just before the brush closed around it.
220 grain core-loct found just under the skin in the chest. Full length penetration, dead in tracks, and no follow up.
Depending on factors of range, species, how they move, etc. The top of the tail gets the spine more reliably.
A friend shot his once in a lifetime moose just before the brush closed around it.
220 grain core-loct found just under the skin in the chest. Full length penetration, dead in tracks, and no follow up.
Gday this post needs repeating
So much good stuff in this especially the clay targets rolling rabbit
rising birds another way but backdrop is extremely important for rising birds or simulated field & mine is very safe as this is my backyard & I use centrefires on clay targets
tires are very good to use for newcomers & keep one's muscle memory upto scratch the other great one with a tire is a tractor tire paint 4 , 4 in dots on the tread part & set up a trigger switch to set it rolling straight towards you & try & hit those dots trying not to bolt before 10 yards takes some nerve but a tire dosent turn like some DG lol & even going directly away to hit the dots is also another good one but nothing like our turbos as those guys I love putting a extra gear in those
So I suppose I'm guilty also of derail but one that covers bases & reinforcing practice is needed in all facets of hunting
Cheers
We usually do that kind of stuff with a dike or berm behind the target. I generally shoot very few upward shots with rifles and that would be at squirrels.
I had an acquaintance (won't call him friend because I really don't like the guy but he's in the family, go figure) get shot with a muzzle loader by another hunter shooting uphill at a deer. The guy killed the deer but the bullet kept traveling upward over the crest of the hill then down the opposite side and hit the boy mid forearm. Then went between the bones (lucky),through the forearm, and stopped on the outside of his jacket. 300 grain 50 cal bullet if I recall correctly. He of course recovered the bullet. A one in a million shot no doubt but things happen.
I had an acquaintance (won't call him friend because I really don't like the guy but he's in the family, go figure) get shot with a muzzle loader by another hunter shooting uphill at a deer. The guy killed the deer but the bullet kept traveling upward over the crest of the hill then down the opposite side and hit the boy mid forearm. Then went between the bones (lucky),through the forearm, and stopped on the outside of his jacket. 300 grain 50 cal bullet if I recall correctly. He of course recovered the bullet. A one in a million shot no doubt but things happen.
I Texas heart shot a buck about 25 years ago not on purpose with a 12ga 250gr hornady SST slug at about 40-50yds. He was pushing some does through the brush close to a stand I was in as a neighboring property owner spooked them. He was quartering away from me and just as I was touching the shot off he must've turned dead away from me and therefore the bullet entered just below the bumhole. He didn't make it 5 yards - took me a few mins to figure out where exactly I hit him. Wasn't my intended aiming spot but very effective and quick kill! It's the buck in the lower L corner.
