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Every ffl is probably not, but it is very likely many are. Having lived in CA for 55 years, I can tell you many FFLs in CA are uniformed or misinformed.Also I can't imagine every ffl holder is misinterpreting the law when there is money to be made.
The .300 Win Mag will limit your desire to shoot, so I'd go with the 6.5 Creed. There's about a half-dozen animals on the entire planet I wouldn't shoot with a Creedā¦ none of which live in the lower 48.The 6.5 CM will limit your hunting range compared to a 300 Win Mag, so I'd go with the 300 Win Mag.
If this were in fact the case in WA on this particular rifle, I'd be rolling 2 hrs away to the most red agricultural area I could find and pick up my gun there.Every ffl is probably not, but it is very likely many are. Having lived in CA for 55 years, I can tell you many FFLs in CA are uniformed or misinformed.
Totally agreed. You can buy a long gun in any state...If this were in fact the case in WA on this particular rifle, I'd be rolling 2 hrs away to the most red agricultural area I could find and pick up my gun there.
thanks!! you pretty much said everything i was trying to say, regarding out of staters, and communist lawmakers. we see eye to eyeWelcome from Oregon.
Oregon and Washington have been under constant attack from communist lawmakers, that moved there from other left leaning states. The jackwagons ruined their own states and decided it wasn't good enough, they had to come here and try to instill the failed policies of their state. The ole "It's not a bad policy, it just didn't work there" mindset.
Apologies, I was born and raised in Oregon and I can't stand most out of staters who move here.
If you want to practice long range shooting buy a 6.5 creedmoor to work on your fundamentals. Comparatively cheap and abundant ammo with lots of choices. Plenty of folks have dropped elk at distance with the 6.5 creedmoor, it's more about shot placement with the smaller calibers. However, the 6.5mm bullets also tend to carry more energy out to distance than several of the 30 caliber bullets in comparable cartridges. I would look at external ballistics, ammo availability, cost and if you're reloading...component availability and cost.
I wouldn't go with a 300 win mag personally. I got rid of mine when I had a custom rifle built. The gunsmith talked me out of the win mag and into a 300 PRC. I regretted the choice for years, but now that ammo is available and fairly common, I don't regret it at all. I unfortunately drank the Kool-aid before ammo was available and all mine was made from 375 ruger brass. I got into reloading for my 300 win mag; and I had to reload for my 300 PRC. It was a whole lot of learning, as I was still new to reloading. I actually have a bergara here pro stock inlet for Badger M5 bottom metal because I needed a .338 CIP length magazine and an interim stock. I had a few for that one rifle... Bergara didn't make a 300 PRC at the time, I really liked the bergara stock though.
Most importantly, unless you want to pack a ridiculously heavy rifle in the extreme terrain long distance elk out west offers...buy a rifle you're comfortable carrying. What I mean to say is, you may want a separate rifle for long range practice and for working on your fundamentals. The idea of an everything rifle is kind of a dream unless you're going to build a modular setup.
my short action has 8 calibers, 10 barrels, 1 lightweight stock 1 competition style stock and 2 scopes. I can go from shooting a 6 dasher fully competition configured etc...to a 6.5 Addiction Carbon barrel, lightweight stock and scope in about 10 minutes. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot an elk with the Addiction.
I don't know, .22lr isn't what it used be Lol. I do enjoy ringing steel at 300 with my CZ457 though...it is definitely a different discipline that can teach you a lot.Welcome to the forum!
An accurate 22 lr will add lots of practice at a reasonable price! Shooting to 300 yds will give you lots of practice at reading wind!
The .300 Win Mag will limit your desire to shoot, so I'd go with the 6.5 Creed. There's about a half-dozen animals on the entire planet I wouldn't shoot with a Creedā¦ none of which live in the lower 48.
The only people who have issues killing elk with mid-sized 6.5s, are shooting them from their keyboards.