Nimrod
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I just snagged a .308 Encore barrel the other day, I'm anxious to get it running.
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Which Handgun will you use this gun season?
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Critter Picker
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Mine likes H4895 and 165 Nosler BT can't give exact load data. I'm 400 miles from home in a ground blind right now.
Nimrod
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I have some of those loaded right now, just have to get the gun put together and come up with an optic.
That's not true, your license to carry firearms covers all "firearms" which per the law includes all semi auto handguns, revolvers, SBRs, SBSs and some AOW but does not include rifles or shotguns. Hunting/Fishing is listed as a possible reason for carrying on the LTCF application and you are covered for that purpose as well.
The sportsman's permit is a specific exception that allows you to carry a concealed firearm only while in the act of hunting, trapping or fishing. It is not all inclusive like a LTCF, applies only during those specific activities, lowers the applicant age to 18 and can be acquired through the county treasurer rather than issued by the sheriff.
Basically the Sportsman's permit allows 18 year olds to carry while hunting but the LTCF covers everything the Sportsman's permit does plus all the additional benefits. The ambiguity comes from the PGC for years stating that "the majority of hunting arms are not covered by the LTCF". They were referring to rifles and shotguns not being covered by the LTCF but intentionally left it vague for their own benefit.
The new wording is even more vague especially since semi auto handguns aren't legal for hunting in the state.
They should just say what they mean, carrying a handgun is fine during big game firearms seasons but doing so in any other season may result in increased scrutiny from Game Wardens.
Honestly that wording is such a travesty that I'm going to write to the PGC and ask them if Kamala Harris wrote that unintelligible line.
mjshell
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My choice will depend on the wind & which stand I'm in. If I'm in the woods it'll be the Max, small field the Reece, powerline the 257AI or 6.5 JDJ. And then I'm not a hardcore handgun hunter, I'll have one of my carbines with me most of the time
41Magnum
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Took this one Tuesday morning with my T/C G2 45 cal. Muzzleloader handgun. 3 deer in as many years with this handgun. Part of his left side is broke off. After skinning him out he had bruising all along his left side, I believe that he was hit by a car instead of fighting another buck.
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std7mag
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Umm, if I'm reading it correctly.
Your attachment reiterated what I already said.
It doesn't, and the wording is atrocious. The point of it is that the sportsman's permit only allows you to carry concealed while actively hunting, trapping or fishing, it does not cover any other circumstances. A LTCF allows you to carry a concealed firearm at all times regardless if you are hunting or not. A sportsman's permit grants no special privileges that your license to carry doesn't already cover with the sole exception being that an 18 to 20 year old can get a sportsman's permit but not a LTCF.
I believe what they are trying to say in the digest, as poorly worded as it is, is that while your LTCF does not have restrictions on what you can carry if you are using your LTCF to carry a handgun for hunting it is subject to PGC regulations.
Basically if you are hunting with a handgun it needs to be a manual one per the regulations and if you are carrying a semi auto you better not be hunting with it as it is for self defense only.
Buttermilk
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I took my two 30 Nosler XP-100's to the range yesterday to confirm zero. Opening day of modern gun season is coming this next weekend. I'm good to go with those two. I plan to hunt with both on alternating days. Hopefully a decent buck will cooperate and pose for a photo shoot.
These two guns are setup virtually identical except for color and barrel. Both shoot equally well. The tan stock/red-brown carbon barrel is 19.125" long and pushes the Berger 210 VLDH right at 2847 fps, with the green stock/stainless 18.5" barrel is getting 2828 fps with the same load.
I am anxiously awaiting hunting season with these two.
These two guns are setup virtually identical except for color and barrel. Both shoot equally well. The tan stock/red-brown carbon barrel is 19.125" long and pushes the Berger 210 VLDH right at 2847 fps, with the green stock/stainless 18.5" barrel is getting 2828 fps with the same load.
I am anxiously awaiting hunting season with these two.
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memtb
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Darn fine shoot'n! That's much better than most (me) with a rifle…..I think that it's ready to hunt! memtb
Bob Roach
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41 Magnum nice job with the muzzleloader. I have a 50 Cal CVA, and it is very impressive. I have a 30mm MatchDot on mine at the moment. It drives tacks, and hits hard. With Blackhorn Powder being outrageous in price, I have not been shooting it lately. It is much more fun to shoot with clean burning powder that cleans up easily. I have enough other propellants to shoot it for a while without buying high dollar powder, so I really do not have a good excuse for not shooting it more.
I did not end up getting the 35 Bullberry G2 out of the safe. I hunted the Regular Deer Season with both my Nosler M48 in 6.5 Creedmoor, as well as my 6.5x30 JDJ G2 Contender. Pitiful Conditions here in South Central Missouri this season. Things should be much better during the December Antlerless Only, as well as the late Alternative Weapons Season. We should be running out of Acorns by then. No shortage of deer, we have all kinds of pictures on Night Vision.
We have some new equipment to break in this deer season. My brother and I purchased a LEM #22 1 HP Meat Grinder, as well as a LEM Meat Tenderizer. I am looking forward to using the electric meat grinder, instead of the big hand crank one I have been using for 30 some years. The LEM #22 is rated at 13 Pounds of burger a minute. It should make processing a lot more fun. We have never had a Meat Tenderizer before either. Looking forward to using both in December. We have a Brat Patty Recipe ready to go as well.
Bob R
I did not end up getting the 35 Bullberry G2 out of the safe. I hunted the Regular Deer Season with both my Nosler M48 in 6.5 Creedmoor, as well as my 6.5x30 JDJ G2 Contender. Pitiful Conditions here in South Central Missouri this season. Things should be much better during the December Antlerless Only, as well as the late Alternative Weapons Season. We should be running out of Acorns by then. No shortage of deer, we have all kinds of pictures on Night Vision.
We have some new equipment to break in this deer season. My brother and I purchased a LEM #22 1 HP Meat Grinder, as well as a LEM Meat Tenderizer. I am looking forward to using the electric meat grinder, instead of the big hand crank one I have been using for 30 some years. The LEM #22 is rated at 13 Pounds of burger a minute. It should make processing a lot more fun. We have never had a Meat Tenderizer before either. Looking forward to using both in December. We have a Brat Patty Recipe ready to go as well.
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What did Quigley say about handguns ?Our gun season is coming up in less than three weeks. I have four of five XP-100's I've not yet killed a deer with, so I will be using one of those in our modern firearms season. Just have to decide which one…
One of the XP's was recently finished and I'm likely going to take it. That particular one is a 30 Nosler, with a carbon barrel. The other three are another 30 Nosler, a 7mm-08 Rem, and a 6x47 Lapua. My 7 RSAUM has taken deer and hog. I may even take a different gun on different days. I plan to primarily focus on one gun for the majority of my hunting during gun season however.
My 30 Nosler is moving a. Refer 210 VLDH @ 2825 fps with 1/2 moa accuracy. Doesn't really matter so much as where I will be hunting 90% of the time shots will be rather short, with most under 100 yds.
I am looking forward to getting afield with an XP-100.
This one will likely be the one I use the most.
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Buttermilk
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I like them and have a use for them even if quigley didn't. Plus I know how to use them too.What did Quigley say about handguns ?
