Winter ELR rifle systems ?

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dragonxi4longrangehunting

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Winter ELR rifle systems ?
Snow camouflage stock ? barrel ?
Powder for extreme cold temperature ?
DIY which works in snowy and cold winter ?
Bipod usable in deep snow ?
Scope for freezing temperatures ?
 
A snow camouflage stock can help blend your rifle into the winter environment, reducing visibility. Look for stocks made from materials that resist cold temperatures and moisture. As for barrels, consider using a stainless steel barrel, which is less prone to rust and can handle cold weather better than carbon steel.
 
The first time I shot my 50 caliber Noreen in deep snow, I put a large blanket down so my bipod wouldn't drop so deep in the snow. I smashed the snow down under the blanket. When I fired the first round, it blew so much snow into my face I spent a few minutes pulling it out of my beard. Good thing I was wearing glasses! Point is, it's a bit different in deep snow.
 
Which gunpowder in cold winter temperatures ?

H4895 ?
ref:
"H4895 is part of Hodgdon's Extreme line,
known for consistent performance across
various temperatures, minimizing velocity
changes in different climates"

Fed 209A ?
ref:
"using hotter primers like Federal 209A
can improve ignition reliability in colder weather

Vihtavuori (Nammo) ?
ref:
"Vihtavuori powders are known for their temperature
stability, maintaining consistent burn rates
from -20°C to 52°C"
 
I have used a pack, a nylon cutting board and split firewood under a bi-pod in New Zealand on snow and frozen tussock. I found shale slides the worst thing to shoot off.
Winter camo only works on animals with colour vision.
209A primers are for shotguns.
Any of the Extreme powders work in cold, as do ball powders with hot enough primers.
Scopes filled with Argon or Nitrogen should allow very cold weather use and not to affect the internals, however, anything can freeze if cold enough and exposed long enough.

Cheers.
 
Have you noticed any difference
between the first and the second shot
accuracy - after all the temperature
difference in the rifle barrel must be
considerable between those shots
in cold winterly conditions ?
 
dragonxi4longrangehunting said:
Have you noticed any difference
between the first and the second shot
accuracy - after all the temperature
difference in the rifle barrel must be
considerable between those shots
in cold winterly conditions ?
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I don't own any rifles that have POI shift due to either barrel heat (cold bore) or from fouled condition. If I discover a rifle doing this, and the usual accuracy work doesn't change it, ie bedding, floating and pillaring, I don't keep them.
My rifles HAVE to put the first shot where I aim, I will never compromise on that, ever.
There are certain powders that DO show POI due to the temperature, but, if you avoid those, it will never rear it's head.

Cheers.
 
My question is what, where and how.
What are you shooting. And hunting.
Where, what part of the world will you be in.
How, will you be hiking for miles and days or what do you want to do.
 
K.E.C. Darkside said:
My question is what, where and how.
What are you shooting. And hunting.
Where, what part of the world will you be in.
How, will you be hiking for miles and days or what do you want to do.
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This is important too.
In New Zealand, we helicopter in to base camp. Hike from there daily.
Weight restrictions have proven difficult, we have had to seperate rifles, ammo and associated gear into seperate trips, with us humans and camp gear on another trip.
We now know what we can take, it is all lightweight, even our rifles have had to be below 15lbs.

Cheers.
 
cohunt said:
Elr, does "winter camo" make any difference?

Elr, does any camo make a difference?
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Coyote Shadow Tracker said:
If you are shooting ELR I don't think the camo would make a difference as far as being seen at Extreme Long Range.
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What they said, from 3/4 mile away, it could be black on a snow background and it won't matter anymore than me wearing an orange vest/hat.
 

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