Hammer CFE223 vs TAC for 137HH in 308 win

TennJed

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Hi, I noticed in the Hammer load data that TAC and CFE223 are used for the 135PH in a 308 win but no one uses TAC with the 137HH in 308 Win. Has anyone used TAC for the 137HH in308 Win? Thank you
 
Berger list a load of 42.4 to 47.1 for their 135, 2780 to 3042 fps. While the bullets are constructed differently, you can compensate for this by loading some "safety check rounds" at 39, 40, 41, & 42. If those rounds exhibit no pressure signs, then start your load development. If you have a chrono, velocity should be in the 2750 range for the 42 grain load.
 
Berger list a load of 42.4 to 47.1 for their 135, 2780 to 3042 fps. While the bullets are constructed differently, you can compensate for this by loading some "safety check rounds" at 39, 40, 41, & 42. If those rounds exhibit no pressure signs, then start your load development. If you have a chrono, velocity should be in the 2750 range for the 42 grain load.
Thank you:)
 
I have use Tac in my 308 with Hammer 151 Absolutes, accurate. I pushed the load to 46 grains well over any published loads I found for a 150 solid. around 2940 fps but the accuracy fell off as the speed increased. I use Tac in my 6PPC bench rifle is very consistent and meters well. and I compete with all the guys using LT-32 the standard for ever in bench rest. I have loaded a lot of my different calibers with Tac. its a good choice. easy to find and relatively cheap compared to other powders.
 
I have read a lot of good things about cfe223 for 308 loads. I don't have much experience with it except to say it is more challenging to clean up the powder station after using it. Tac is supposed to be more temp sensitive, though I don't have any firsthand experience with that.

I have been working up a load with the 138HHT and Benchmark and have been very pleased with velocity (right at 3k from 18" barrel) and moderately pleased with accuracy (just under one moa from a cheap Ruger American). It's a powder worth trying for that cartridge and bullet weight.
 
I have use Tac in my 308 with Hammer 151 Absolutes, accurate. I pushed the load to 46 grains well over any published loads I found for a 150 solid. around 2940 fps but the accuracy fell off as the speed increased. I use Tac in my 6PPC bench rifle is very consistent and meters well. and I compete with all the guys using LT-32 the standard for ever in bench rest. I have loaded a lot of my different calibers with Tac. its a good choice. easy to find and relatively cheap compared to other powders.
Thank you
 
I have read a lot of good things about cfe223 for 308 loads. I don't have much experience with it except to say it is more challenging to clean up the powder station after using it. Tac is supposed to be more temp sensitive, though I don't have any firsthand experience with that.

I have been working up a load with the 138HHT and Benchmark and have been very pleased with velocity (right at 3k from 18" barrel) and moderately pleased with accuracy (just under one moa from a cheap Ruger American). It's a powder worth trying for that cartridge and bullet weight.
Thank you
 
If you're set on using CFE223, do your load development when it's hot out.
CFE223 is known for its instability over temperature differences.
Doing load development when it's cold will lead to over pressure when it's hot.

I experimented with it in my 7mm-08AI. I couldn't get below 32fps ES.
Then with over pressure in the summer, and low speeds in the winter, it became lawn fertilizer.
 
If you're set on using CFE223, do your load development when it's hot out.
CFE223 is known for its instability over temperature differences.
Doing load development when it's cold will lead to over pressure when it's hot.

I experimented with it in my 7mm-08AI. I couldn't get below 32fps ES.
Then with over pressure in the summer, and low speeds in the winter, it became lawn fertilizer.
Thank you. This explains the wide variations in my muzzle velocity
 
The CFE-223 info is interesting. I have experienced no impactful variability. While it's not part of the Extreme line, I have shot it in temps from 30 deg to 100 deg with no impactful change in velocity.
 
I think it is liek any powder, it either likes it or it don't. If getting crazy ES, I drop down in charge weight. Usually helps.
 
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