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Like I said... young and stupid. We were also trying to shoot deer at 400+ yards in the field with open sighted 30-30s. Mine (borrowed from a coysin) had a 2.5 power scope. I held perfect... just forgot to take into account 4+ feet of drop. Lol
They are usually the warmest stuff I own.Not sure why I wear camo!
You would be surprised how much this Alabama boy hunted in the country you have in those pictures. About twenty years worth of it .I could drive there and buy elk and mule deer tags over the counter that were good for any part of the state. Hunted Wyoming, Montana, Colorado, New Mexico. Texas got my attention for about a decade. Don't preach.
And easy = quicker & cheaper, the deer color vision study can be done with some simple medical observations over a short period of time in one location by one or two people
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When I was 13 I missed 8 shots on deer in a single weekend at 150 yards off a rest with my .243. That was the catalyst that caused me to get interested in long range shooting and making myself a better shot. Once I got older and more experienced I realized that the field I was told was 200 yards was actually 350 and my "150 yard shot" was actually 300 yards. I was shooting under or short of those deer.
I don't doubt it. I'm sure a lot do, it's why it's hard to get western tags. That said, there isn't a ton of southerners/easterners, or flat landers, I personally see at 11,000 ft 12 miles from any road in random alpine canyons.
I've seen that meat eater article.And easy = quicker & cheaper, the deer color vision study can be done with some simple medical observations over a short period of time in one location by one or two people
Fawn death/ coyote studies take hundreds of people in multiple states years to make any kind of meaningful correlation between the numbers. And those results might take a decade or more to process and factor out the data that was tainted by other factors.
That being said there are plenty of studies that have been done but the factors are too complex to simply nail down to X coyotes = y dead fawns.
https://www.themeateater.com/wired-to-hunt/whitetail-management/what-is-killing-americas-fawns
Coyote Impacts on Fawn Survival: What’s the Latest?
Our staff attended the annual Southeast Deer Study Group meeting back in February 2012 and the theme revolved around how predators are changing the way deer populations are managed in some areas across the Southeast. We are still learning about the behavior and general ecology of coyotes and...
In my case I am, here in PA the majority of the deer where I hunt are extremely skittish around people as they spend several months of the year being hunted. Additionally in many cases the terrain does not allow for them to be seen prior to being well within their ability to see you.
I have several places I hunt where 60 yards is the farthest that I can see and you definitely have to time your movements or they will bust you. In my experience camo seems to give you a bit more leeway in your movements compared to solid colors if your timing is less than perfect.
Fair enough, no doubt. Flatlander here, 11000 feet….wow! I'm at 1100
Agreed! When we hunted the wilderness areas we went on horse and stayed a while. Usually the two week elk season. Had camps we had used for years. I didn't start bowhunting there until the late 80s, and 90s. Didn't take us long to figure out that if a mule deer saw you moving the jig was up. Found that elk were more forgiving with movement than deer. That may have changed now. Haven't been there in almost twenty years. Its a young mans game. I'm no longer young.
That's some beautiful country ya got there!
you're 100% right on the movement. I just like to add to context. Especially as this is a camo thread. I feel that open country situations don't get fully represented a lot of times.
I get in by foot. Pack outs suck, but thankfully I have my heath and above average fitness. By military standards. Not my opinion.
