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They even screwed up the Rum. It nearly died for almost a decade and Rum shooters were screwed when it came to finding brass and decent factory ammo for a long time.
The 6.5 CM and PRC are only under-achieving clones of the 260 Rem and 6.5 Rem Mag. Hornady-Hype and lots of advertising has them in the spotlight for now. I own all 4 of these and love all of them. And in the end a better mouse trap has in my opinion has Not arrived.
you say underachieving but some argue the opposite...for example, regardless if a belt is a big deal or not, many people hate belted cases so a big negative for 6.5 rem mag and while the 260 rem does beat the 6.5cm in speed (typically)...the 6.5cm case is better designed for semi-autos and supposedly more efficient. Basically any cartridge you can think of these days, was based off something else. Hornady may be "hyping" their rounds...but they are also winning. PRC is too new to really tell for staying power but the 6.5cm isn't going anywhere. It has been out already for over a decade and has so many rifle companies producing rifles (especially with the proper twist for long range hunting), it wont go anywhere. The downfall of the 260 is very little factory rifle offerings, and the ones that were offered, came with terrible twists for long range shooting. Also, very little in terms of factory ammo. 6.5cm has shelves of ammo a tons of choices. It makes a perfect hunting rifle for a youth, small framed person, women and full framed men. Low recoil. Personally, I bet more 6.5cm are purchased for deer hunting for youths than 243s now. Just my two cents.
didoHello rustyshackleford, please read my post again, especially the last sentence. I wrote: "I'll go out on a limb here and probably get beat up pretty bad, but I will state that "any caliber that is sub 30 caliber" (.257 to .284) will be hard pressed to beat the performance of the .270WSM; I suspect that I'll get some flack from the 26-28 Nosler crowd here! This doesn't mean that it is the catch all, do all caliber, just that it is a pretty good performer for just about any long range shooting on game.". I didn't say the .270WSM is the catch all, do all caliber just that one would be hard pressed to beat its performance, there are good calibers that will outperform it as well. From the Nosler Reloading Guide#8 all comparison made with a 140gr bullet: .270WSM-3200fps, 28 Nosler 3500fps, 7mmRemMag 3300fps, 7mm WSM 3200FPS, 26 Nosler 3200fps, .270Win 3000fps, .264WinMag 3000fps, 6.5-.284 3000fps, 6.5-06 2900fps, 260 Remington 2800fps, 6.5 Creedmore 2750fps, 6.5 Grendell (125 gr bullet) 2500fps. These ballistics were from 24 and 26 inch barrels, the 26 inch barrels were mostly Wiseman proof barrels. With the exception of the 28 Nosler the .270WSM holds its own with the rest, and what I wrote is a generalization nothing more. And......something that I'd like to address here about the person (won't call anyone names, however.......) in reference to the "ole guy who is stuck in his ways" !! Statements such as this really --ss me off because it shows a lack of respect for a person. Apparently whoever is making a commentary like this is young, and as such making a statement as harsh as this is like the guy who gives comments on how good their Creedmore is on killing an elk at a 1000 yards, but has never shot an elk!! With that I'm going to make a comment: Thus because you are young you are not there/here yet (ole), so you really do not know what you are talking about when you make such a comparison of comparing "ole" as something inferior!! I've been shooting since I was eight years old, hunting since I was fifteen years old, thirty years law enforcement, five years SWAT, fifteen years armorer, fifteen years tactical firearms instructor. "The only source of knowledge is experience." Albert Einstein. I'm seventy-two years "ole", sharp as a tack, and I consider myself one of the lucky ones because I made it this far!! I'm done with the dissertation, said my piece!
Hardshot yes finally apples to apples6.5-06 and 6.5x 284
He also has compared a heavy for caliber bullet in one cartridge to a magnum cartridge using a light for caliber bullet in the other cartridge to bolster his argument --but its "apples to oranges" and not a valid comparison.
