New NIkon BLACK FX1000- FFP,30mm,Zero-stop

Side by side my FX turrets feel better then my SHV and every person I've shown then to agree. Call me a liar if you want to but the FX feels better then this SHV without question.

deadnbrkn84 said:

Side by side my FX turrets feel better then my SHV and every person I've shown then to agree. Call me a liar if you want to but the FX feels better then this SHV without question.

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I would expect a Nikon employee to be biased. It is great for you and your friends. Mine disagree and we are the ones you are trying to sell to. I have no doubt you will sell many but you are making me like them, and Nikon in general, even less. The great thing is when I am ready to sell mine you can get a great deal on the best scope ever made.

rfurman24 said:

I would expect a Nikon employee to be biased. It is great for you and your friends. Mine disagree and we are the ones you are trying to sell to. I have no doubt you will sell many but you are making me like them, and Nikon in general, even less. The great thing is when I am ready to sell mine you can get a great deal on the best scope ever made.

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Man I'm definitely not trying to start a fight with you and as a matter of fact I appreciate that you bought one in the first place. I never said this scope was the best scope ever made, but I do feel that it's the best scope at it's price point around. We take some extra steps during assembly, and do a few things differently on these so the quality and durability on these should exceed all expectations for the price.

My SHV is a few years old and was one of the early ones (admittedly I haven't used one made in the last year or two), and there's always the possibility that your FX has something up with the turret which is why I offered a free replacement. I'm just doing my job trying to make you happy.

I just personally think that the FX clicks are better since I picked it out specifically between the three samples our engineers made and this model was noticeably better then the other two they had designed. With the SHV I've got you can hear an audible click that it's in position but can't feel anything, it's actually a little bizarre. I won the scope though so I never really gave it much thought and put it on a hunting rifle.

I've competed at the highest levels of long range competition with just about every high end scope out there, so I REALLY appreciate good turrets and clicks. I chose between three different ratcheting mechanisms when the internals of the turret were being designed because I was such a stickler for good positive clicks. I know you can't please everyone but this is why I'm surprised you're so unhappy. One of the most common responses we got at ShotShow was how impressed everyone was at the clicks. The clicks however are not as "large" for lack of a better term like a Gen 1 PST because there is way more of them per turn. Again, this is why I offered a free replacement because I'm wondering if something is up with yours.

Either way, I wasn't trying to push anything just make you a happy customer. If there's anything myself or Nikon can do for you please don't hesitate to ask.

- Jeremy Bentham

deadnbrkn84 said:

Man I'm definitely not trying to start a fight with you and as a matter of fact I appreciate that you bought one in the first place. I never said this scope was the best scope ever made, but I do feel that it's the best scope at it's price point around. We take some extra steps during assembly, and do a few things differently on these so the quality and durability on these should exceed all expectations for the price.

My SHV is a few years old and was one of the early ones (admittedly I haven't used one made in the last year or two), and there's always the possibility that your FX has something up with the turret which is why I offered a free replacement. I'm just doing my job trying to make you happy.

I just personally think that the FX clicks are better since I picked it out specifically between the three samples our engineers made and this model was noticeably better then the other two they had designed. With the SHV I've got you can hear an audible click that it's in position but can't feel anything, it's actually a little bizarre. I won the scope though so I never really gave it much thought and put it on a hunting rifle.

I've competed at the highest levels of long range competition with just about every high end scope out there, so I REALLY appreciate good turrets and clicks. I chose between three different ratcheting mechanisms when the internals of the turret were being designed because I was such a stickler for good positive clicks. I know you can't please everyone but this is why I'm surprised you're so unhappy. One of the most common responses we got at ShotShow was how impressed everyone was at the clicks. The clicks however are not as "large" for lack of a better term like a Gen 1 PST because there is way more of them per turn. Again, this is why I offered a free replacement because I'm wondering if something is up with yours.

Either way, I wasn't trying to push anything just make you a happy customer. If there's anything myself or Nikon can do for you please don't hesitate to ask.

- Jeremy Bentham

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I am not unhappy with it. I really do not feel there is something "wrong" with it. I just prefer a more tactile turret. Based on that I will be keeping my Sightron on my rifles that do not really need a March or Nightforce. The more people this works for the better in my opinion. The competition in anything the better off the consumer is. When I am dialing prone the only thing I care about with the turrets is how easy it is to hit my dial. Too hard or too soft and you end up fidgeting. If you are dialed on an animal long range you just do not have time to be messing with it. Like I said I have not even had a chance to test the rest of the scope and will do so with zero bias. As far as the statement comparing to the Gen I PST that is what I was referring to about physics earlier. It is somewhat unfair comparing to the Sightron or Gen I PST because they have less clicks per rev.

Hell, I'll settle this...

Have Nikon send me one, and I'd be more than happy to give an honest as-close-to un-bias review as possible (as someone who likes and has owned both high-end Nikons and other high-end scopes), and compare it side-by-side with it's main competitor, the Vortex HS-T 6-24x50 MRAD (got 4 of them). I even got a brand new set of Seekins rings sitting here in the box beside me, and plenty of rifles to stick it on (or I can just swap them around onto the same rifle for a more equal comparison)... And if Nikon wants it back, I'll be happy to mail it back to them after testing/review.

Also, I must say, I'm HIGHLY interested to see that zero-stop setup in person...That is a VERY ingenious design, from the way it looks.

Everyone knows that despite my bias, I have absolutely no problems calling a company out on their defects/short-comings... I have no problem calling a spade, a spade. If it's flawless, I'll admit it. If it has issues, I'll share them. If I like or don't like something, I'm going to tell you, and be brutally honest about it.

If Nikon is interested, shoot me a PM for a mailing address, and when I get time to go test it, I'll post up a thread showing my findings, and share my thoughts, with pictures.

If they are interested, I prefer 6-24x50 MRAD SFP, with 0.1 MIL turrets.

Monarch glass?
Nikon factory or just optics factory?
I read somewhere Nikon sat down with the makers in Japan and they spec'd the scope, do you honestly think they gave you their best, knowing you were going to have it manufactured across the pond at their competitors?
Not bashing, I just need to know.

Heck I just want to know how it tracks. I read a review that the turrets are spot on but the retical is not.

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tmmcampbell said:

Heck I just want to know how it tracks. I read a review that the turrets are spot on but the retical is not.

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There was one review that said that but all I could ever find was that one review. That was also on the X1000 not the FX1000 so it was the previous version that was a second focal plane scope. I don't know but I have to wonder if he wasn't on the right magnification for the reticle to read true. Again I don't know, just my guess.

I used the same scope he reviewed to take 6th/108th in a NRL match with targets out to 1,420yd which felt pretty good considering I was the cheapest scope in that crowd by a large degree!

I will put my 2 cent in here. I have 5 NF scopes 3 SHV's and both 5-25 and 7-35 ATACR
and as much as I love my NF . I picked up the Nikon Black X1000 to give it a try, I haven't had a chance to really run it out to long range yet but so far it Tracks perfect, Very clear and Bright and the Turret Clicks to me and some buddies seem about the same as my 3 SHV's and for the price point I don't think there is anything close. I wish I would have waiting and got the FX 1000 with Zero stop but other that that I have No issues with it.

As I have said before, I do some freelance PR/Shooting Event's with Nikon, just to get that out of the way. I am an avid longrange shooter who enjoy's testing my limit's and capabilities. Many day's it's the capabilities part that get's in my way. I have used the BLACK X1000's for quite a while now and have a 1000+ round's under 2 6.5 CM's and a .308. I have made hit's past 700 yards with this scope that have made me a believer. That being said, when I got my hand's on the BLACK FX1000 at SHOT Show I knew it was going to fill a niche for many shooter's who wanted to really reach out there with their shot's. I haven't put any rounds under one yet but I am certain that the well thought out features on this scope will help me be a better shooter.
I'll be getting in some longrange shooting/coyote/pig hunting this weekend and hopefully I'll have some pic's to add.

At the end of the day picking a scope comes down to trying to get all the feature's you want for what you can afford and I think Nikon's BLACK FX1000 will do just that for a lot of folk's.

Hold on Nikon reps... yup there it is..... You have now shoved this scope all the way down our throats.. good work.

magtech83 said:

Hold on Nikon reps... yup there it is..... You have now shoved this scope all the way down our throats.. good work.

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Bart is not a sales rep for us in any way and we do not pay him a cent to sell anything, nor does he work for Nikon. I'm the Manager for the Sport Optics division for Nikon but not a sales rep, I just believe in the scope and proved it's capabilities by personally running it in a match by beating 102 guys with scopes costing many many times more. No this is not a $3k scope, I was just trying to put every "needed" match feature in a scope with good glass at a reasonable price point. Not intended as a sales pitch by any means.

I'm going to end with that, I hope some of you get to see it in person and any of you need anything from me personally don't hesitate to ask.