6.5 haters

[lancetkenyon]

6.5mm is the caliber I own the most rifles chambered in various cartridges. I love the caliber. But I use them for mule deer sized animals and down. I have plenty of other rifles for black bear, elk and up.

6.5CM (older daughter's)
6.5SLR (younger daughter's)
.260AI
6.5PRC
6.5PRC/SI
6.5SS
6.5SS

 

[jessej]

but the Needmoor did help to give the 6.5 cal the credit it deserves in bullet selection etc ,

I begrudgingly admit that you are correct.

It's popular because it's one of the best performing long range cartridges that fits the constraints it was designed around.

I have a good friend, good enough that we eat supper together at least once a week.
He purchased a holy grail (creedmoor) rifle. Proceeded to kill a 2 yr old 8 point at 70 yards with it. Said it blew all the lungs out the exit hole. And that his 30-06 never killed a deer that quick.
Thy was several years ago. Hasn't shot anything since. He still brags on that needmoor though.

 

[jessej]

Yep. Havin a drink around the fire pickin at one another. If we caint laugh at ourselves, we in sad shape.

We all have our faults. I may be like the investigator on deuce bigalow, but at least I don't shoot a creedmoor.

 

[memtb]

I have to say I have heard the claims WAY too many times. The shorter action should not be a concern as most that shoot it according to them even if they miss it will just kill the game with the vapor trail.

Just completely sucks the oxygen away…..with a clean miss, the animal will still suffocate! memtb

 

[Rosebud]

Then we disagree.

If by 7 you meant to say 8 I'm all in agreement

 

[P7M13]

I'd have liked to see this comparison between the 6.5 Man Bun and the 7/08 Rem.

 

[ButterBean]

Just completely sucks the oxygen away…..with a clean miss, the animal will still suffocate! memtb

Instantly turns you in to Carlos Hathcock the second you purchase one

 

[Hard rock]

I have to say I have heard the claims WAY too many times. The shorter action should not be a concern as most that shoot it according to them even if they miss it will just kill the game with the vapor trail.

Many people don't understand why 6.5 Creedmoor became as popular as it did, or why it's a better long range cartridge than 260 to most shooters.

It's easy to convert a 308 to 6.5 Creedmoor. That made it trivial for manufacturers to offer a 6.5 Creedmoor if they already offered a 308, or for shooters to convert a 308 to 6.5 Creedmoor. You can use the same bolt and magazines without issue. It's easy for a cartridge to get a foothold when many shooters and manufacturers just needed to swap a barrel to use it.

Compared to 260 Remington, 6.5 Creedmoor is better suited for long, high BC bullets in a short action rifle. That gives it an advantage over 260 Remington for long range shooting. Factory twist rates play in here too. While that's not an issue for people shooting custome rifles, the majority of shooters use off the shelf rifles from the local gun shop.

6.5x47 Lapua has the same advantages as 6.5 Creedmoor and was released around the same time, but never really caught on in the US. The two are more or less the same. Had 6.5 Lapua been introduced by a US company it probably would have taken off instead. We're no better or worse off with Creedmoor than we would have been with Lapua.

6.5 Swede, 6.5-06, and many of the other cartridges that provide ballistics similar to 6.5 Creedmoor need a long action. That eliminates the possibility of converting a 308 to 6.5. There's some disadvantages to long actions, especially in the competition settings where Creedmoor first took off.

6.5 Creedmoor is intended to be a long range cartridge that fits within a pretty strict set of constraints. It's popular because it's one of the best performing long range cartridges that fits the constraints it was designed around. I've never seen someone who actually shoots a 6.5 Creedmoor make the claims the haters go on about. It's a slight improvement over the 308 that does a little better at long range, and the people who actually shoot it are aware of that.

The only reason , in my opinion the NEEDMOOR became so popular over the other 6.5, cartridges they finally got the barrel twist right 1-8 and faster compared too the slower twist 1-9 for the factory 260 Remington , I would take the 308 necked down 260 any day over the Needmoor , If Remington would have chosen the 1-8 twist in the factory 260 especially the A.I version the CREEDMOOR may not have ever been heard of .

 

[JAYgs8163]

6.5mm is the caliber I own the most rifles chambered in various cartridges. I love the caliber. But I use them for mule deer sized animals and down. I have plenty of other rifles for black bear, elk and up.

6.5CM (older daughter's)
6.5SLR (younger daughter's)
.260AI
6.5PRC
6.5PRC/SI
6.5SS
6.5SS

You need a 6.5x47 Lapua to go along with that group.

 

[comfisherman]

Yep. Havin a drink around the fire pickin at one another. If we caint laugh at ourselves, we in sad shape.

Your being polite in picking, I've got a friend that's borderline brutal in his 6.5 man bun jokes. 2 years ago he text me he had some bad news, then fessed up that he had broke down and bought a Creedmoor. When I pushed him on what kind, He then said "just kidding, it's not that bad. I've just got to do another round of chemo...."

You may poke fun... but few use it as a lead in to cancer. Granted his sense of humor is a bit sharp, fighting ca made it darker than usual.

 

[skipglo]

I am not sure I would say 6.5 haters as much as I would Creedmoor haters. The 6.5 has always been a wonderful bullet. Read so many articles about the 6.5 before the Creedmoor ever arrived on the seen. I would say the reason for the hate is the Creedmoor showed up and all of a sudden this is the cartridge to end all cartridges. People claimed ridiculous capabilities when the Creedmoor doesn't produce anything better than the Swede the 260 Rem, 264 win mag or the 6.5/06 A square that was already available to the public. This isn.t to mention the wildcats that were available. Shooters just got tired of new shooters picking up the cartridge running to the range and field and claiming that it was this super cartridge that equals what is out there already.

Kinda like...6.5 PRC, 7PRC, 300 PRC don't you think?

 

[martyj]

I was never impressed with the cartridge but have to admitt after I bought a used one and shot it I do think it is an accurate round. Slower than heck and dont think it will out shoot my 264 win mag but works with in its limits just like a 30-30 or some of the other deer calibers.

 

[trodgers]

Pbbt, the Swedes got it right 130 years ago ~

 

[PredatorSlayer45]

Man bun, non binary, skirt wearing junk