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what is the best deer bullet in 30 cal --expansion vs. penetration
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<blockquote data-quote="FireFlyFishing" data-source="post: 2944869" data-attributes="member: 127412"><p>So if we're talking home or self defense, and I don't want over penetration, then yes, I want all the energy dumped into the target. Otherwise, I want two holes rather than one. </p><p></p><p>Ponder this. If you hit a target wearing a plated vest with a rifle bullet and the bullet stops at the plate, hasn't' all of the energy been deposited on the target with less than desirable results? Or perhaps it goes through the plate and stops inside the target? Does that mean that all that energy guarantees a kill?</p><p></p><p>So equate this with a less than desirable shot hitting bone(s) and you may have something similar to the hypothetical above. Potentially, eating too much energy, unwanted deflection, undesirable expansion or unwanted fragmentation. This has definitely been my experience with Bergers. I've had them not expand much and blow an exit hole through animals and I've had great shots with an animal run away with no blood trail. Both of these experiences were on deer and the former was much better than the latter, obviously. Very unpredictable.</p><p></p><p>To me, energy is only part of the equation. Knowledge of anatomy and the disruption of the anatomy is also very important. I will also say, the guarantee of a larger exit hole out than entrance also maximizes blood loss and, more often than not, causes a much better blood trail. This has been my experience anyway. </p><p></p><p>This is why I like monoliths or bonded bullets. If you know when not to take the shot, like too far away for optimal terminal performance, they're more reliable when they do hit the target. The one caveat is a really crappy shot is a really crappy shot and will not bring home the bacon regardless of which bullet you use. </p><p></p><p>Lastly, I like the monoliths or bonded bullets as I can hold a wolf, bear, deer, and elk tags at the same time in MT. I choose the heaviest of duty bullets for my rifle to conquer all the possible species listed above. This also includes a charging griz. </p><p></p><p>Regarding Cape buffalo: hunters in Africa use solids for the most dangerous game coupled with extremely large calibers for the combo of big hole(s), big energy, and maximum penetration. Not really applicable for this deer conversation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireFlyFishing, post: 2944869, member: 127412"] So if we’re talking home or self defense, and I don’t want over penetration, then yes, I want all the energy dumped into the target. Otherwise, I want two holes rather than one. Ponder this. If you hit a target wearing a plated vest with a rifle bullet and the bullet stops at the plate, hasn’t’ all of the energy been deposited on the target with less than desirable results? Or perhaps it goes through the plate and stops inside the target? Does that mean that all that energy guarantees a kill? So equate this with a less than desirable shot hitting bone(s) and you may have something similar to the hypothetical above. Potentially, eating too much energy, unwanted deflection, undesirable expansion or unwanted fragmentation. This has definitely been my experience with Bergers. I’ve had them not expand much and blow an exit hole through animals and I’ve had great shots with an animal run away with no blood trail. Both of these experiences were on deer and the former was much better than the latter, obviously. Very unpredictable. To me, energy is only part of the equation. Knowledge of anatomy and the disruption of the anatomy is also very important. I will also say, the guarantee of a larger exit hole out than entrance also maximizes blood loss and, more often than not, causes a much better blood trail. This has been my experience anyway. This is why I like monoliths or bonded bullets. If you know when not to take the shot, like too far away for optimal terminal performance, they’re more reliable when they do hit the target. The one caveat is a really crappy shot is a really crappy shot and will not bring home the bacon regardless of which bullet you use. Lastly, I like the monoliths or bonded bullets as I can hold a wolf, bear, deer, and elk tags at the same time in MT. I choose the heaviest of duty bullets for my rifle to conquer all the possible species listed above. This also includes a charging griz. Regarding Cape buffalo: hunters in Africa use solids for the most dangerous game coupled with extremely large calibers for the combo of big hole(s), big energy, and maximum penetration. Not really applicable for this deer conversation. [/QUOTE]
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