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<blockquote data-quote="comfisherman" data-source="post: 3052386" data-attributes="member: 8394"><p>Anybody can build a rifle for factory ammo, as long as they have a saami reamer your golden. Clearly define the feature set desired and go from that point looking for smith's. Most smiths can do most guns but if one has a decade long relationship with the action you want and the reamer you want listed in his reamer stash that goes a long way to a less painful experience.</p><p></p><p>Cartridges would probably be in the 6.5 to 30 cal range, what he wants at 800 would dictate which side of that range to go on.</p><p></p><p>Honestly I'd pull up ammo listing from grafs, midway, midsouth etc. And look at factory options with bullets he wants to shoot. Seems like lately that's been the prc lines, love them or hate them it generates enough buzz to get some decent options. The wsm and now some of the saums have some semi custom ammo options with premium bullets i.e. double tap. As a non loader he's gonna be at the whim of the market on ammo selection so start there.</p><p></p><p>Everybody and their brother makes a carbon stock these days. So less weight hides in the stock than years ago, not likely to end up with a sniper fill mcmillan that's 6 pounds, most being in the 30 oz and change range. Actions do have a weight variability, but it's less than barrel and stock, if weight is a concern pick one of the lightened variations from one of a dozen makers. Barrels are where weight hides, 3b is a good gap between sporter and sendero. Honest reflection of use would dicate contour. I'm under a bartleind 3b for pure hunting and closer to a sendero if range sessions push past a box a week. </p><p></p><p>After that just don't put a chunk scope on it and your gonna be way under 20 pounds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="comfisherman, post: 3052386, member: 8394"] Anybody can build a rifle for factory ammo, as long as they have a saami reamer your golden. Clearly define the feature set desired and go from that point looking for smith's. Most smiths can do most guns but if one has a decade long relationship with the action you want and the reamer you want listed in his reamer stash that goes a long way to a less painful experience. Cartridges would probably be in the 6.5 to 30 cal range, what he wants at 800 would dictate which side of that range to go on. Honestly I'd pull up ammo listing from grafs, midway, midsouth etc. And look at factory options with bullets he wants to shoot. Seems like lately that's been the prc lines, love them or hate them it generates enough buzz to get some decent options. The wsm and now some of the saums have some semi custom ammo options with premium bullets i.e. double tap. As a non loader he's gonna be at the whim of the market on ammo selection so start there. Everybody and their brother makes a carbon stock these days. So less weight hides in the stock than years ago, not likely to end up with a sniper fill mcmillan that's 6 pounds, most being in the 30 oz and change range. Actions do have a weight variability, but it's less than barrel and stock, if weight is a concern pick one of the lightened variations from one of a dozen makers. Barrels are where weight hides, 3b is a good gap between sporter and sendero. Honest reflection of use would dicate contour. I'm under a bartleind 3b for pure hunting and closer to a sendero if range sessions push past a box a week. After that just don't put a chunk scope on it and your gonna be way under 20 pounds. [/QUOTE]
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