Professional Hunter to Remove Idaho Wolves

If he is able to do the locating from slow flying aircraft like Supercubs and his shooting from a helicopter then he will have success.

If not then it is doubtful that one person can do much unless this is well funded as well as year-round work using trapping and perhaps a healthy amount of 1080 baits.
 
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Bad deal

.......but look at the bright side. In 20 years, maybe less, you will be coming east of the Mississippi to hunt Elk in the original native habitat, the Eastern United States.

Here is where elk originated and our native elk populations are growing in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Kentucky, through careful management.

Here is where it's gonna be at, not out there.
 
Yes I have no doubt at all the political grandstanding is what this is all about.

Here in British Columbia where we reduced wolves from 1978 through to 1994 by shooting them from the air, we successfully turned around our declining large ungulate populations. We were shut down by the politicians when we reached our goal and never allowed to renew the work to maintain wolf numbers at the then reasonable levels.

Here we are now with ridiculously long hunting seasons, our moose, elk and stone's sheep populations are on the verge of where hunting may have to be significantly reduced while the government uses the force of politics to disallow moderating our hunting seasons while the wolf numbers are back to historic numbers. All that effort gone with the wind.

A great many hunters up here are very disgruntled yet in our system we have, few are speaking out as access to the facts are not readily forthcoming to but a few.
 
Read the entire thread.....

Bad deal

.......but look at the bright side. In 20 years, maybe less, you will be coming east of the Mississippi to hunt Elk in the original native habitat, the Eastern United States.

Here is where elk originated and our native elk populations are growing in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Kentucky, through careful management.

Here is where it's gonna be at, not out there.

i always thought elk were a plains animal,not eastern forests,besides you will be having your own problems with wolves.
 
i always thought elk were a plains animal,not eastern forests,besides you will be having your own problems with wolves.

Elk are very adaptable.... Many years ago they were prevelant in the Eastern United States but population density drove them out (except form pockets in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Kentucky) and they resettled in the western states..

Those pockets in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Kentucky remain to this day. In fact the MDNR carefully manages the elk herd here and we have some outstanding bulls in the northern lower penninsula. Pennsylvania also has a managed and growing herd as well as Kentucky.

We have a definite wolf issue in the Michigan UP thats decimating the deer but the state is powerless to do anything about it...

Read here....

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Dec. 4, 2015
Contact: Chad Stewart, 517-641-4903 ext. 263 or Ashley Autenrieth 989-732-3541
U.P. Focus: Firearm deer hunting season a mixed bag in the Upper Peninsula
Michigan Department of Natural Resources wildlife biologists said preliminary check station data shows mixed results for the firearm deer hunting season in the Upper Peninsula.
So far, indications are there was a drop in the overall harvest. However, with hunters across the region registering a higher proportion of mature bucks, many of those deer were beautiful bucks.
After three consecutive severe winters in the region, DNR biologists predicted hunters this firearm deer season would likely see fewer deer in the U.P., especially in the 1 ½- and 2 ½-year-old age classes.
"It was a challenging firearm deer hunting season, as anticipated," said David Jentoft, a DNR wildlife biologist at the Sault Ste. Marie Field Office. "The number of bucks being checked is generally down, but check stations have seen a higher proportion of mature bucks coming in, particularly 3 ½- and 4 ½-year-olds."
DNR biologists expected more mature bucks in the harvest, with the effects of the previous year's harsh winter weather limiting the number of yearling bucks available in the U.P. deer population this year.
Early Statistics
Preliminary estimates indicate deer check stations in the U.P. registered deer totals down about 13.5 percent through the firearm deer hunting season, compared to last year.
Check station results are only one indicator the DNR uses to evaluate the deer season and not all of that data has been compiled yet. A clearer picture of the season is expected to emerge once camp and hunter surveys are returned in the weeks ahead.
The DNR check station at Escanaba was the busiest in the U.P., followed by Marquette. Escanaba staff checked a total of 321 deer and there were 165 deer checked at Marquette.
The percentage of bucks checked at those two stations varied widely, demonstrating the limitation of projecting general results across the region from individual stations. The Escanaba station was down about 25 percent from last year, while Marquette had an increase of 20 percent.
A similar situation occurred at the Mackinac Bridge.
DNR wildlife division staff checked a total of 37 deer over the two days the check station at Bridge View Park in St. Ignace was open, compared to 51 there last year. That marks a dip of 27 percent.
However, a short distance away, Mackinac Bridge Authority toll booth workers informally counted a total of 1,481 deer on southbound vehicles over the firearm deer hunting season. That total represents a 5-percent decline from the 1,563 deer tallied last year.
Deer Health Improvement
Antler beam measurements, which generally indicate a buck's overall fitness level, were greatly improved in the U.P. from the past two seasons.
"This shows that deer that came out of last winter were in pretty good shape, certainly better than the previous couple of seasons," said Chad Stewart, DNR deer, elk and moose management specialist at the Rose Lake Wildlife Research Center in East Lansing. "Yearling antler beam growth is back now within the previous 10-year average after being significantly lower the last two years."
Wolves
Wolves have an impact on the deer population in the U.P., but to what extent is not fully known.
A multiyear predator-prey study — being conducted by the DNR and Mississippi State University — is ongoing in an effort to better understand the predatory impacts to U.P. deer from wolves, coyotes, bears and bobcats.
Coyotes also play a significant role in deer predation. An individual wolf may kill more deer than a coyote. However, there are more coyotes on the landscape, which produces a larger impact on fawn mortality.
The predator-prey research has been conducted over the past six years in low and medium snowfall zones in the region and is moving north to study high snowfall areas next.
Wolves in Michigan are currently federally protected as endangered species after a U.S. District Court ruling in December 2014.
Endangered species status for the wolf severely limits the tools the state can use to manage the species, including lethal control, as outlined in the state's Wolf Management Plan. The federal court ruling prohibits the Michigan Natural Resources Commission from considering hunting as a management tool.
The DNR supports removing wolves from the endangered species list, as gray wolves reached targeted population recovery goals in Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin years ago.
Legislation is currently pending in the U.S. Congress which, if passed into law, would prohibit courts from overruling the Department of the Interior on delisting wolves in Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Wyoming. A similar measure was passed in 2011 for wolves in Idaho and Montana.
Meanwhile, the DNR continues to manage wolves according to the remaining provisions of Michigan's recently updated Wolf Management Plan, including the use of nonlethal harassment techniques.
The only legal killing of wolves in Michigan is in defense of human life.
Continuing Action
The DNR, NRC and sporting groups continue to partner in efforts to improve the deer population.
Long-range work is being done to preserve and enhance critical winter range areas by the U.P. Wildlife Habitat Work Group and short-range measures have been undertaken to try to preserve a larger number of does surviving the winter, including reducing the number of antlerless tags available to hunters in the U.P.
This past summer, the NRC eliminated the ability to tag an antlerless deer with either the single deer license or combination deer license during the archery season in hopes this may assist in helping the deer herd recover.
That change was expected to reduce the deer harvest by 5,000 to 6,000 deer heading into the winter months. The decision came after extensive discussions and public comment on six potential regulation change options for this fall.
Those options the NRC considered included:
• Option 1: Maintain the current hunting season and license structure in the U.P.
• Option 2: Close the entire deer hunting season in the U.P.
• Option 3: Eliminate the option of using a combination license when hunting in the U.P. (one buck) and eliminate the antlerless option during archery season when using the single deer license.
• Option 4: Eliminate the antlerless option during archery season for hunters hunting on deer licenses, including the combination license.
• Option 5: Eliminate the antlerless option for archers hunting on deer licenses, including the combination license, during the late archery season only.
• Option 6: Eliminate the Liberty and Independence hunts in the U.P.
"The reduced harvest in the U.P., though disappointing for many, will help aid in the long-term recovery of the deer herd, as well as the efforts being made to improve habitat," Stewart said. "We know the deer numbers in the U.P. are down lower than most want to see. However, an elevated harvest would not be conducive to our goals at this time, which is to grow the deer herd in the U.P."
Weather
The firearm deer hunting season opened Nov. 15 to unseasonably warm temperatures in the 50s across the U.P. By mid-season, temperatures had cooled and many places received snowfall. But by Monday's season close, snow had melted from most areas.
"While we know deer numbers are low and we have taken several steps to help the herd recover, the most important component will be the weather," said Ashley Autenrieth, DNR Deer Program biologist in Gaylord. "Luckily, this fall and going into this winter, we've seen above-average temperatures and very low snowfall levels. If the trend continues, we should see a mild winter which would be a great start to allowing the deer herd to recover."
License Sales
Deer hunting license sales by county of residence were down about 10 percent in the U.P. since March 1. As of Monday's season close, there had been 63,202 deer hunting licenses sold to U.P. residents, compared to 70,154 last year.
Marquette County had the highest number of residents buying deer licenses in the U.P. this year with 10,921, followed by Delta County with 9,975 and Menominee County with 9,298.
Muzzleloader and Late Archery Seasons
Muzzleloader season opens today in the U.P. and northern Lower Peninsula and closes Dec. 13. Late archery season opened Dec. 1 and continues through the end of the month. Prospects for hunters continue to remain mixed.
"Hunters still should not expect to see many deer, but those who are lucky enough to harvest a buck will likely be harvesting a 3 ½- to 4 ½-year-old buck since their numbers appear to be higher than younger age classes, due to the severe winters over the last few years," Autenrieth said.
For more information on deer hunting in Michigan, visit the DNR's webpage at: DNR Deer Redirect.
/Note to editors: Accompanying photos are available below for download. Suggested captions follow.
Aging: Derek Overmeyer, left, and his brother Kyle, both of Skandia, watch as DNR research technician Erin Largent from the Marquette check station demonstrates how to age their dad's (Don Overmeyer) buck by looking at the animal's teeth.
Bridge buck: Bernie Andres of Swartz Creek shot this 8-point buck on opening day in Mackinac County. He checked the deer at the Michigan Department of Natural Resources check station at Bridge View Park in St. Ignace.
Iron deer: Charles Carlson of Irons shot this 8-point buck in Iron County that was aged at 4 1/2 years old.
Marquette: Michigan Department of Natural Resources wildlife biologist Brian Roell weighs a buck Tuesday at the check station in Marquette. The number of bucks checked at that station during the firearm deer hunting season was up over last year, but remained below the 10-year average.
Member: Western Upper Peninsula Citizens' Advisory Council member Kenny Buchholtz of Escanaba was elated after shooting his first buck in seven years this firearm deer season.
Newberry buck: Thomas Weaver of Hulbert brought this 7-point buck to the Michigan Department of Natural Resources check station in Newberry. The buck was shot on private land in Chippewa County./
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The Michigan Department of Natural Resources is committed to the conservation, protection, management, use and enjoyment of the state's natural and cultural resources for current and future generations. For more information, go to DNR - Department of Natural Resources.

We have also experienced an outbreak of CWD near the State Capitol in Lansing, Michigan.....

Read here......

U.P. Focus: Panel discussion on 'Keep the U.P. CWD Free!' campaign airs next weekend
The Michigan Department of Natural Resources is reminding the public that broadcasts of WNMU-TV13's "Media Meet" discussion on keeping the Upper Peninsula free from chronic wasting disease will air next weekend.
The program with DNR staff and host Bill Hart focuses on various efforts to educate the public on CWD and keeping it from reaching the U.P. The program will initially air at 6:30 p.m. EST Saturday, Dec. 12, and be rebroadcast at 2:30 p.m. Sunday, Dec. 13, and in January 2016.
Guests featured on the half-hour program include Ashley Autenrieth, DNR deer program biologist in Gaylord, Terry Minzey, DNR U.P. regional wildlife supervisor in Ishpeming, Dave Dragon, a DNR wildlife technician from the Crystal Falls office, and John Pepin, DNR deputy public information officer in Marquette.
The broadcast will reach viewers across the U.P. and parts of northern Wisconsin. A week after the initial broadcast, the television program will be available online at: Media Meet | Watch Online | WNMU-TV Public TV 13 Video.
Public Radio 90 will also air the program at 7:30 a.m. Dec. 13, repeating at 3:30 p.m. Dec. 14. The program will also be available on Public Radio 90's podcast at: WNMU On Demand Jukebox.
The DNR recently launched a public information and education campaign to try to keep chronic wasting disease from reaching the Upper Peninsula.
Discovered earlier this year in a free-ranging deer in the Lower Peninsula, CWD affects the central nervous system and is fatal to white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk and moose. There is no known treatment.
DNR officials are concerned CWD could be brought into the U.P. by those hunting in other states. From billboards and bumper stickers to an informational fact sheet and television and radio broadcasts, the DNR is working to inform the public about preventing CWD from occurring in the U.P.
For more information, visit DNR Chronic Wasting Disease Redirect.
/Note to editors: Accompanying photos are available below for download. Suggested captions for photos follow.
Bumper sticker: Bumper stickers are among the materials produced by the Michigan Department of Natural Resources to help educate the public on chronic wasting disease and keeping it out of the Upper Peninsula.
Media Meet: Michigan Department of Natural Resources staff members were interviewed by moderator Bill Hart for a Dec. 5 broadcast of "Media Meet" on WNMU-TV13 in Marquette. The program, which will be broadcast across the Upper Peninsula and into parts of northern Wisconsin, focused on chronic wasting disease and keeping it out of the U.P. Pictured from left, wildlife technician DNR David Dragon from the Crystal Falls office, DNR Deer Program biologist Ashley Autenrieth from Gaylord, program host Bill Hart and Terry Minzey DNR Upper Peninsula regional wildlife supervisor.
Billboard: Billboards, like this one near Norway, are up along the Wisconsin-Michigan border in Menominee, Norway and Ironwood as part of the Michigan Department of Natural Resources' educational effort to "Keep the U.P. CWD Free!"/
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We aren't without issues either.... The big concern is CWD will spread to the UP via Wisconsin or the Lower. Last week the DNT received a report of a deer carcass dropped along a roadside in Eaton Township (lower UP, nit dar from where I live. Turned out to be a field dressed that someone tossed, it was deantlered and gutted.

Michigan has a law against importing deer from western states to control CWD. Any deer brought in, must have the meat removed from the bone and the skull must be rendered inert through taxidermy.

So, whoever dumped it was too **** dumb to debone it, or took it to a processor and found out they couldn't get it processed.

I bring in Mule Deer...did it this year. One processed and one quartered and deboned.

My take on predatory species (wolves) is, the white collar types should quit meddling with Mother Nature..... We also have some issues here.....
 
The real issue you are faced with is that here in northeastern British Columbia we proved that the habitat condition alone did nearly nothing to lessen the impact of predation by wolves on large ungulates. They were declining at the rate of around 56% every three years, and not due to habitat issues. I flew for nearly a week on game counts and saw only 8% of bulls were yearling bull moose and our spring counts confirmed the lack of calves entering to yearling age.
 
GOOD TO KNOW.now the release of the wolf has always been to stop hunting,that is why they blocked all efforts until the wolf was way over quota and now the eastern and mexican wolf covers all bases.and the way the animal people can keep going to court is because we pay if they win or lose,that is the way the government let them set that up.plus the took a million dollars from the pitman robertson fund to help reintroduce them [illegal] but like obama and hillary and eric holter they got away with it.so we pay to stop our own selves.
 
Originally it was likely the green groups that lobbied the Federal US Wildlife Service to come to British Columbia and Alberta looking to capture wolves for control of the elk in Yellowstone. Who can say now that their real long term intent was that well planned. I seriously doubt those people I met with from the US were looking at anything but a way to not have to cull a large number with rifles.

They were told however, that their success might lead to what has occurred, however it was to a large degree it seemed politically driven.

I really do not wish to go further in this discussion. Good luck to all you elk hunters, and get out there and shoot some wolves.
 
Glad to see somthing being done. Guess living in Okla. has its good points,
no wolfs, and where I live no hogs, (hogs are close) this is not missed hunting
oppertunity but a blessing. I do hope that this small step you are seeing will grow like a snowball and expand not only in your state but to other states as
well.

Maybe we can have the government release wolves trained to hunt hogs?

Problem solved!
 
Maybe we can have the government release wolves trained to hunt hogs?

Problem solved!

You can have our wolves come and get them. Although introducing an invasive species to combat another invasive species seems like it might be not the best idea...
 
Man... my goal is to get at least 1 wolf this year. They supposedly aren't in the south central part of our state but ranchers keeps seeing "BIG COYOTES" down south where the elk population has moved in. I'm going to keep track of their information and go do some scouting to see if I can get a couple (2 tags in my wallet). Keep your fingers crossed for me!
 
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