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Nosler accubond
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<blockquote data-quote="Riflehunter1776" data-source="post: 1777267" data-attributes="member: 103369"><p>yes, there is good and bad with the BT's. a ballistic tip at long distance is a good thing because it will still expand even at lower velocities. But at close range with velocity, you're right, they'll act like a varmint grenade. They are a terrible choice for brush. From the late 80's until 2006, I used BT's exclusively. The woods I hunted in back then were mature hardwood forest with limited scrub, and every year they performed like magic. I was sold on them. Bang-flop year after year with an occasional short run. Then, around 2002, my main in-state area was timbered and became very thick. I started to notice that things were going wrong. In '04 (All my buck are dated on the back of the plaques along with relevant notes), for my PA buck, my butcher said "did you know your bullet was already opening up when it hit him?" So, 2+2, I began to realize that the inexplicable problems in the thick brush had a simple explanation. I switched to Accubonds, and even back then I had a couple of long runners. One in particular was in 08, a 300WM /150 at relatively close range which went across 2 neighboring properties. Cut open, it was hit right through the vitals, but it penciled in and penciled out and the deer ran. So I switched to Barnes X bullets in PA, and never had another issue again with brush (remember, I'm not talking about shooting through tree trunks, it's brambles or twigs often not evident in the scope) nor did I have problems with bullet underperformance. The biggest issue with the Barnes was that they just didnt seem to group as well for me over 300 yards.</p><p></p><p>2011, new rifle that liked BT's......2 more 'issues' that year in brush. This year, a primary rifle was drenched in a downpour and had to be taken apart and cleaned, but we were hunting the next morning and no time to re-sight. So we took a beanfield rifle that was sighted for BT's. There again, another issue when it had to shoot a deer on the edge of brush. </p><p></p><p>So yes, in 30 years of hunting with Nosler Ballistic tips, accubonds, and Barnes x bullets, both in my own state and a half dozen other states I have taken hunting trips to, that is my experience, and the experience of my kids, proved out with a ton of antler on the walls. BT's are accurate and awesome in the great wide open. Barnes bullets have never failed me and always hit hard but just dont group as well for me at long range in my rifles. And Accubonds are very accurate, but I've had runners with them. So I have different rifles/loads for different conditions. I picked up some bergers this year to try out, but never got the chance to work up anything. Next year.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Riflehunter1776, post: 1777267, member: 103369"] yes, there is good and bad with the BT's. a ballistic tip at long distance is a good thing because it will still expand even at lower velocities. But at close range with velocity, you're right, they'll act like a varmint grenade. They are a terrible choice for brush. From the late 80's until 2006, I used BT's exclusively. The woods I hunted in back then were mature hardwood forest with limited scrub, and every year they performed like magic. I was sold on them. Bang-flop year after year with an occasional short run. Then, around 2002, my main in-state area was timbered and became very thick. I started to notice that things were going wrong. In '04 (All my buck are dated on the back of the plaques along with relevant notes), for my PA buck, my butcher said "did you know your bullet was already opening up when it hit him?" So, 2+2, I began to realize that the inexplicable problems in the thick brush had a simple explanation. I switched to Accubonds, and even back then I had a couple of long runners. One in particular was in 08, a 300WM /150 at relatively close range which went across 2 neighboring properties. Cut open, it was hit right through the vitals, but it penciled in and penciled out and the deer ran. So I switched to Barnes X bullets in PA, and never had another issue again with brush (remember, I'm not talking about shooting through tree trunks, it's brambles or twigs often not evident in the scope) nor did I have problems with bullet underperformance. The biggest issue with the Barnes was that they just didnt seem to group as well for me over 300 yards. 2011, new rifle that liked BT's......2 more 'issues' that year in brush. This year, a primary rifle was drenched in a downpour and had to be taken apart and cleaned, but we were hunting the next morning and no time to re-sight. So we took a beanfield rifle that was sighted for BT's. There again, another issue when it had to shoot a deer on the edge of brush. So yes, in 30 years of hunting with Nosler Ballistic tips, accubonds, and Barnes x bullets, both in my own state and a half dozen other states I have taken hunting trips to, that is my experience, and the experience of my kids, proved out with a ton of antler on the walls. BT's are accurate and awesome in the great wide open. Barnes bullets have never failed me and always hit hard but just dont group as well for me at long range in my rifles. And Accubonds are very accurate, but I've had runners with them. So I have different rifles/loads for different conditions. I picked up some bergers this year to try out, but never got the chance to work up anything. Next year. [/QUOTE]
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