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New build 264 Win Mag vs 6.5/257 Weatherby
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<blockquote data-quote="sable tireur" data-source="post: 2792286" data-attributes="member: 27307"><p>Please don't overlook a favorite wildcat creation, the .257 Condor.</p><p></p><p>From another post elsewhere:</p><p></p><p><em>The .257 Weatherby is an obvious choice because factory ammunition is available and so are the cases. When the Blackbirds first appeared, this was my first choice although the .25-06 AI pushed real hard to be my first attempt. Now though I don't have such limits since I use these heavies (131, 133, 135) in quite few of the .25 caliber cases without modifications or in several modified cases (284, Creedmoor, Savage, WSM, RSAUM, etc.) <strong>But the light shining through all the testing managed to bring back an outstanding former wildcat case from Dr. Somavia, the .257 Condor, made from the 7x61 Sharpe and Hart. </strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Why? </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Great case capacity without being too much. </em></p><p><em>High quality cases (Norma).</em></p><p><em>Factory improved shoulder at 40 degrees.</em></p><p><em>Mild case taper for easy extraction. </em></p><p><em>Shorter than the standard belted magnum case allowing the heavy bullets to be seated out.</em></p><p><em>No distorted claims of ultra-high speed.</em></p><p><em>Good balance between powder choices and performance. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>How fast?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Somewhere in the neighborhood of 3,250+ fps. with 4 different powders.</em></p><p><em>1,000+ ft/lbs of energy at 1,000 yards. (not suggested, just for comparison)</em></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]453942[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Link to the original story published in 1960:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.cartridgecollector.net/257-condor" target="_blank">https://www.cartridgecollector.net/257-condor</a></p><p></p><p>7x61 Super Sharpe and Hart brass is still available through Norma and is on sale currently. The 7x61 is an outstanding case all by itself so it makes a great 7mm hunting rifle on its own.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://loaddata.com/images/database/7x61mm%20S&H2.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Enjoy!</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sable tireur, post: 2792286, member: 27307"] Please don't overlook a favorite wildcat creation, the .257 Condor. From another post elsewhere: [I]The .257 Weatherby is an obvious choice because factory ammunition is available and so are the cases. When the Blackbirds first appeared, this was my first choice although the .25-06 AI pushed real hard to be my first attempt. Now though I don't have such limits since I use these heavies (131, 133, 135) in quite few of the .25 caliber cases without modifications or in several modified cases (284, Creedmoor, Savage, WSM, RSAUM, etc.) [B]But the light shining through all the testing managed to bring back an outstanding former wildcat case from Dr. Somavia, the .257 Condor, made from the 7x61 Sharpe and Hart. [/B] Why? Great case capacity without being too much. High quality cases (Norma). Factory improved shoulder at 40 degrees. Mild case taper for easy extraction. Shorter than the standard belted magnum case allowing the heavy bullets to be seated out. No distorted claims of ultra-high speed. Good balance between powder choices and performance. How fast? Somewhere in the neighborhood of 3,250+ fps. with 4 different powders. 1,000+ ft/lbs of energy at 1,000 yards. (not suggested, just for comparison)[/I] [ATTACH type="full"]453942[/ATTACH] Link to the original story published in 1960: [URL]https://www.cartridgecollector.net/257-condor[/URL] 7x61 Super Sharpe and Hart brass is still available through Norma and is on sale currently. The 7x61 is an outstanding case all by itself so it makes a great 7mm hunting rifle on its own. [IMG]https://loaddata.com/images/database/7x61mm%20S&H2.gif[/IMG] Enjoy! :) [/QUOTE]
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