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<blockquote data-quote="Topgun 30-06" data-source="post: 487524" data-attributes="member: 28854"><p>Although I live in MI, I call Wyoming my second home and I'm usually out there from 4 to 6 weeks every Fall. I have yet to speak to one Wyoming resident, obviously including a number of ranchers, who were for introduction of wolves into the ecosystem. Wyoming did have their plan approved by the FWS in 2007 and Montana immediately raised a stink as to why it was approved when it wasn't in 2004 and 2006. The antis got involved and the FWS reversed their decision and the delisting was reversed. The antis know that every time Malloy rules in their favor that they can then recover the millions of dollars it costs them to pursue that lawsuit from Federal taxpayers because Federal law allows them to apply for and receive monies back from the Federal Government in those lawsuits. In effect, taxpayers are paying them and the courts and the taxpayer ends up the loser every time. This whole fiasco is simply a matter of states rights, just like the state of AZ now facing a Federal lawsuit for trying to control illegal aliens on their border, which the Feds are responsible for and aren't doing nearly enough. The antis, if they have their way, want wolves to roam the entire country and they are basically getting their wish by keeping this in the courts instead of in the hands of the separate state game biologists where it should be. I hunt in the Big Horn Mountains and two years ago a pack came all the way from north of Yellowstone Park and killed over 100 sheep and calves on two ranches adjacent to where I hunt. The area is over 250 miles from the Montana state line near Yellowstone. I met the Father of the Federal Agent sent in on the matter and they had to use a plane because trapping did not do the job. They were still only able to kill 3 out of the estimated 8 in the pack. The alpha male had a collar on that had been put on him by the State of Montana FWP to the north of Yellowstone Park! Last September while helping a rancher survey a new fenceline that borders the ranch where the sheep were killed we found a wolf track in the mud. I'd put the photo on this thread, but I am not computer literate in the way this site works to do it. Suffice it to say that it was larger than our hand, so it was not a coyote and I know what a cougar track looks like. My question is this? If the Feds are trying to keep them in check by killing them outside the zone like they did there, why don't they just approve the Wyoming plan and let us do it the way Wyoming has been asking in their plan from the start? Seems pretty simple to me!!! Oh, and one final thing. The question was raised as to why the antis are still involved in this even though the wolf population is many times more than the agreed upon level for delisting. The simple answer to that is that if wolves are allowed to expand and the game we hunters buy licenses for are the prey and drop to unhuntable levels everywhere like they are around Yellowstone they will have succeeded in eliminating hunting. That means if there is nothing to hunt there is no need for guns and that is their hidden agenda! It all really falls into place rather well if you are one of them and think about it a little!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Topgun 30-06, post: 487524, member: 28854"] Although I live in MI, I call Wyoming my second home and I'm usually out there from 4 to 6 weeks every Fall. I have yet to speak to one Wyoming resident, obviously including a number of ranchers, who were for introduction of wolves into the ecosystem. Wyoming did have their plan approved by the FWS in 2007 and Montana immediately raised a stink as to why it was approved when it wasn't in 2004 and 2006. The antis got involved and the FWS reversed their decision and the delisting was reversed. The antis know that every time Malloy rules in their favor that they can then recover the millions of dollars it costs them to pursue that lawsuit from Federal taxpayers because Federal law allows them to apply for and receive monies back from the Federal Government in those lawsuits. In effect, taxpayers are paying them and the courts and the taxpayer ends up the loser every time. This whole fiasco is simply a matter of states rights, just like the state of AZ now facing a Federal lawsuit for trying to control illegal aliens on their border, which the Feds are responsible for and aren't doing nearly enough. The antis, if they have their way, want wolves to roam the entire country and they are basically getting their wish by keeping this in the courts instead of in the hands of the separate state game biologists where it should be. I hunt in the Big Horn Mountains and two years ago a pack came all the way from north of Yellowstone Park and killed over 100 sheep and calves on two ranches adjacent to where I hunt. The area is over 250 miles from the Montana state line near Yellowstone. I met the Father of the Federal Agent sent in on the matter and they had to use a plane because trapping did not do the job. They were still only able to kill 3 out of the estimated 8 in the pack. The alpha male had a collar on that had been put on him by the State of Montana FWP to the north of Yellowstone Park! Last September while helping a rancher survey a new fenceline that borders the ranch where the sheep were killed we found a wolf track in the mud. I'd put the photo on this thread, but I am not computer literate in the way this site works to do it. Suffice it to say that it was larger than our hand, so it was not a coyote and I know what a cougar track looks like. My question is this? If the Feds are trying to keep them in check by killing them outside the zone like they did there, why don't they just approve the Wyoming plan and let us do it the way Wyoming has been asking in their plan from the start? Seems pretty simple to me!!! Oh, and one final thing. The question was raised as to why the antis are still involved in this even though the wolf population is many times more than the agreed upon level for delisting. The simple answer to that is that if wolves are allowed to expand and the game we hunters buy licenses for are the prey and drop to unhuntable levels everywhere like they are around Yellowstone they will have succeeded in eliminating hunting. That means if there is nothing to hunt there is no need for guns and that is their hidden agenda! It all really falls into place rather well if you are one of them and think about it a little!!! [/QUOTE]
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