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<blockquote data-quote="mcseal2" data-source="post: 411012" data-attributes="member: 22030"><p>Writing this post, and the reply's I've gotten gave me something to think about during the hours I spent disking wheat stubble today.</p><p> </p><p>I weighed my pack on my fishing scale just now, with everything included except the items listed below it weighs 8lbs. I have everything in a eberlestock mini-me pack now, but ordered a X1E today that I might switch to next hunt. It has more capacity for a more substantial vest (the cabelas wooltimate I own) and more extra space. The X1E pack weighs 1.5lbs more empty than the mini-me but includes the scabbard in that weight where the mini-me does not. The mini-me is stuffed FULL with everything listed, which makes drawing from the scabbard slower, but not as much as I thought it might. I went on a 3 mile conditioning hike today with the mini-me loaded as listed plus a 20oz water bottle and 9.5lb 270 in the scabbard and it carried great, even with just a T shirt in 92 degree heat. The mini-me is so narrow that carrying a rifle on a sling works very well also which I may not be able to say about the X1E, I'll just have to wait and see. The X1E has 2300 cubic inch capacity where the mini-me has 800. The camelback stryker I used last year has 1200 and was perfect size, but having the gun in a scabbard between your shoulder blades makes carrying it much easier. The area I hunted last year had a huge burn and having my hands free crossing it would have been wonderful.</p><p> </p><p> I agree with the idea of an extra headlamp, it is something I have considered. The GPS, headlamp, and camera I carry take the same AA batteries so I am covered there. Lamp breakage is different though, a spare small tikka 1 battery lamp wouldn't weigh much or take up much room but would be handy in a bad situation. I haven't carried one because my friend & I stick together in the mountains and he has 2 (at least) also.</p><p> </p><p>The stocking cap I have covered, because the ski mask I carry is one of those baclave designs that can be used many ways. </p><p> </p><p>Another idea I came up with today was replacing the polypropylene long johns (that I've never used) with a lightweight pair of waterproof pants that I could slip on if I was cold or going to be glassing in the snow for a while. </p><p> </p><p>A real meal would also be nice instead of the energy bars, but I hate to add the weight since we don't stop to eat a real meal. We eat good before leaving for, and after getting off the mountain so I think I could get by unless things turned real bad. If that happens I know the areas where we have cell phone reception to call backup. Should I carry more food to prepare for this?</p><p> </p><p>What do you use for chemical fire starter?</p><p> </p><p>Not in pack when weighed</p><p>-water</p><p>-cell phone</p><p>-head lamp</p><p>-energy bars</p><p>-water filter</p><p>-license & regs</p><p>-rifle in scabbard</p><p> </p><p>Also in the pack were stony point tripod shooting stix.</p><p> </p><p>These items would add some weight, but not a huge amount. I think I could get the pack in under 14lbs without the rifle. The rifle I will carry hunting will weigh 8.15lbs with scope, sling, and ammunition so 22lbs should cover the entire load other than what I carry in my pockets & binoculars on their harness. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I usually carry my ammunition, rangefinder, binoculars, wind meter, spare knife, & camera in my pockets and not the pack so that makes a difference also. I don't carry a spotting scope but am borrowing a pair of Leupold 10-17x switchpower binoculars to try this year. </p><p> </p><p>Thanks for the replys.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mcseal2, post: 411012, member: 22030"] Writing this post, and the reply's I've gotten gave me something to think about during the hours I spent disking wheat stubble today. I weighed my pack on my fishing scale just now, with everything included except the items listed below it weighs 8lbs. I have everything in a eberlestock mini-me pack now, but ordered a X1E today that I might switch to next hunt. It has more capacity for a more substantial vest (the cabelas wooltimate I own) and more extra space. The X1E pack weighs 1.5lbs more empty than the mini-me but includes the scabbard in that weight where the mini-me does not. The mini-me is stuffed FULL with everything listed, which makes drawing from the scabbard slower, but not as much as I thought it might. I went on a 3 mile conditioning hike today with the mini-me loaded as listed plus a 20oz water bottle and 9.5lb 270 in the scabbard and it carried great, even with just a T shirt in 92 degree heat. The mini-me is so narrow that carrying a rifle on a sling works very well also which I may not be able to say about the X1E, I'll just have to wait and see. The X1E has 2300 cubic inch capacity where the mini-me has 800. The camelback stryker I used last year has 1200 and was perfect size, but having the gun in a scabbard between your shoulder blades makes carrying it much easier. The area I hunted last year had a huge burn and having my hands free crossing it would have been wonderful. I agree with the idea of an extra headlamp, it is something I have considered. The GPS, headlamp, and camera I carry take the same AA batteries so I am covered there. Lamp breakage is different though, a spare small tikka 1 battery lamp wouldn't weigh much or take up much room but would be handy in a bad situation. I haven't carried one because my friend & I stick together in the mountains and he has 2 (at least) also. The stocking cap I have covered, because the ski mask I carry is one of those baclave designs that can be used many ways. Another idea I came up with today was replacing the polypropylene long johns (that I've never used) with a lightweight pair of waterproof pants that I could slip on if I was cold or going to be glassing in the snow for a while. A real meal would also be nice instead of the energy bars, but I hate to add the weight since we don't stop to eat a real meal. We eat good before leaving for, and after getting off the mountain so I think I could get by unless things turned real bad. If that happens I know the areas where we have cell phone reception to call backup. Should I carry more food to prepare for this? What do you use for chemical fire starter? Not in pack when weighed -water -cell phone -head lamp -energy bars -water filter -license & regs -rifle in scabbard Also in the pack were stony point tripod shooting stix. These items would add some weight, but not a huge amount. I think I could get the pack in under 14lbs without the rifle. The rifle I will carry hunting will weigh 8.15lbs with scope, sling, and ammunition so 22lbs should cover the entire load other than what I carry in my pockets & binoculars on their harness. I usually carry my ammunition, rangefinder, binoculars, wind meter, spare knife, & camera in my pockets and not the pack so that makes a difference also. I don't carry a spotting scope but am borrowing a pair of Leupold 10-17x switchpower binoculars to try this year. Thanks for the replys. [/QUOTE]
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