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<blockquote data-quote="bounty hunter 2" data-source="post: 1349910" data-attributes="member: 90711"><p>I don't know about under rated perhaps for my choice its unrated or totally ignored. My favorite underdog cartridge is the 22 Cooper.</p><p>When Kimber of Oregon went under and some of the employees bought the equipment and moved to Stevensville Montana they started a new company under the leadership of the then president of the company Dan Cooper. They were new in the game and looking to make their mark in the industry.</p><p>There was a clamor at the time by gun writers for a cartridge that could deliver 22 mag performance but in a reloadable center fire to keep the cost of ammo down. Cooper arms stepped up to the plate with the fine little model 38 in the re- incarnation of the 22 Maynard extra long and the 22 Velodog cartridges but in a modern souped up version that could propel a 55gn cast bullet to 2000 fps.</p><p>The idea was sound but it practice it failed. The reason it failed was because the original brass then being made by Red Willow Armory also of Stevensville at the time was being lathe turned and was brittle. The RWA brass was cracking on the first shot so there was no savings, in fact the 22 CCM ammo cost twice as much as 22 mag ammo and since the brass was cracking on the first shot and couldn't be reloaded it was a loosing proposition. The whole idea died a sudden death and never has anyone other than your truly tried to revive it. Too bad because with the brass now available from Schroeder Bullet works of Sandi ago Cal. the idea has come to fruition. I have re loaded some of the Schroeder brass 100 times and is still in service. I just re anneal after every few shots and that seems to keep the brass in service indefinitely.</p><p>My max loads use 7gn of powder for 1000 shots per pound and my lightest load uses .7gn powder for 10,000 shots per pound of powder. Now with good brass available the 22 Cooper is everything it was supposed to be but its time has come and gone and I doubt it will ever be anything but a failed attempt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bounty hunter 2, post: 1349910, member: 90711"] I don't know about under rated perhaps for my choice its unrated or totally ignored. My favorite underdog cartridge is the 22 Cooper. When Kimber of Oregon went under and some of the employees bought the equipment and moved to Stevensville Montana they started a new company under the leadership of the then president of the company Dan Cooper. They were new in the game and looking to make their mark in the industry. There was a clamor at the time by gun writers for a cartridge that could deliver 22 mag performance but in a reloadable center fire to keep the cost of ammo down. Cooper arms stepped up to the plate with the fine little model 38 in the re- incarnation of the 22 Maynard extra long and the 22 Velodog cartridges but in a modern souped up version that could propel a 55gn cast bullet to 2000 fps. The idea was sound but it practice it failed. The reason it failed was because the original brass then being made by Red Willow Armory also of Stevensville at the time was being lathe turned and was brittle. The RWA brass was cracking on the first shot so there was no savings, in fact the 22 CCM ammo cost twice as much as 22 mag ammo and since the brass was cracking on the first shot and couldn't be reloaded it was a loosing proposition. The whole idea died a sudden death and never has anyone other than your truly tried to revive it. Too bad because with the brass now available from Schroeder Bullet works of Sandi ago Cal. the idea has come to fruition. I have re loaded some of the Schroeder brass 100 times and is still in service. I just re anneal after every few shots and that seems to keep the brass in service indefinitely. My max loads use 7gn of powder for 1000 shots per pound and my lightest load uses .7gn powder for 10,000 shots per pound of powder. Now with good brass available the 22 Cooper is everything it was supposed to be but its time has come and gone and I doubt it will ever be anything but a failed attempt. [/QUOTE]
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