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Meanwhile on RS they're killin bear, deer, elk , and moose with .223 and 77gr TMK.
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<blockquote data-quote="Small Lady" data-source="post: 2957035" data-attributes="member: 126670"><p>I think that we all want less government. </p><p>But 'if' the government wants to limit hunters, it should be based on proficiency, not caliber. </p><p>And to answer your other point about some guns cannot be accurate at those distances, well then they are eliminated, and no longer a concern.</p><p>Hunters that aren't idiots, should be the goal. </p><p></p><p>Not people who have their scope store mounted, and say close enough. </p><p>Or a box of ammo lasts them years.</p><p>Either they are a good shot, or they stay home. </p><p>And if whatever they are shooting is still accurate at 500 yards, it is likely still traveling at a good speed, or they couldn't hit 4 out of 4 targets. Sure they might fluke 1, but that's why its never just 1 shot. The bare minimum should be 4 in my opinion. </p><p>Want to hunt with my boss, then you have to prove to be accurate 20 out of 20 shots, or else he won't let you hunt at those distances. </p><p>He uses a beer can as his measure. </p><p>If you can hit 20 out of 20 beer cans at 100 yards, but not 200, then you're not allowed to hunt past 100 yards with him. His hunt, his rules. I don't miss at 100, 200, 300, 400, or 500 yards. I can usually get 20 for 20 at 600 yards, but not always. 700 well I am more like 14 out of 20, and at 800 yards, hit 5 to 11 most days, so call myself a 5 out of 20 shooter at 800. We don't shoot targets a lot here, usually an object, or beer cans. Personally I don't count my 100 yard shots as a hit unless i hit the particular letter printed on the can I was aiming for. </p><p></p><p>I know that you prefer a 300wm, nice guns in my opinion. </p><p>My boss would call it a pee shooter, or BB gun, because again we all have our own opinions. Doesn't make the right or wrong, just different. </p><p>One persons 223, is another persons 338, is anothers 600 express.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Small Lady, post: 2957035, member: 126670"] I think that we all want less government. But 'if' the government wants to limit hunters, it should be based on proficiency, not caliber. And to answer your other point about some guns cannot be accurate at those distances, well then they are eliminated, and no longer a concern. Hunters that aren't idiots, should be the goal. Not people who have their scope store mounted, and say close enough. Or a box of ammo lasts them years. Either they are a good shot, or they stay home. And if whatever they are shooting is still accurate at 500 yards, it is likely still traveling at a good speed, or they couldn't hit 4 out of 4 targets. Sure they might fluke 1, but that's why its never just 1 shot. The bare minimum should be 4 in my opinion. Want to hunt with my boss, then you have to prove to be accurate 20 out of 20 shots, or else he won't let you hunt at those distances. He uses a beer can as his measure. If you can hit 20 out of 20 beer cans at 100 yards, but not 200, then you're not allowed to hunt past 100 yards with him. His hunt, his rules. I don't miss at 100, 200, 300, 400, or 500 yards. I can usually get 20 for 20 at 600 yards, but not always. 700 well I am more like 14 out of 20, and at 800 yards, hit 5 to 11 most days, so call myself a 5 out of 20 shooter at 800. We don't shoot targets a lot here, usually an object, or beer cans. Personally I don't count my 100 yard shots as a hit unless i hit the particular letter printed on the can I was aiming for. I know that you prefer a 300wm, nice guns in my opinion. My boss would call it a pee shooter, or BB gun, because again we all have our own opinions. Doesn't make the right or wrong, just different. One persons 223, is another persons 338, is anothers 600 express. [/QUOTE]
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