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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 1356584" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p><em>"All of the Blackhorn 209 loads we developed were made to match the performance of <strong><u>three pellets of Triple 7 propellant</u></strong>, not in pressure, but in velocity. With its slower pressure curve, Blackhorn 209 typically develops higher velocity at lower pressures than other black powder or black powder substitutes. None of the loads, which are typically between 80 and 120 grains by volume, produced more than 25,000 psi in our test barrels. All of the 120 grain loads produced velocity comparable to, or greater than <strong><u>three fifty-grain pellets</u></strong> using the same bullet."</em></p><p></p><p>Notice what Western tried to match???? Why????</p><p></p><p>Remington DOES NOT list BH209 as an approved BP substitute. So because its not listed to NOT shoot, that means that it can be shot? The manual may have changed since the listing I posted, but look at the last paragraph on that page.</p><p></p><p>Western has done testing with the RUM and BH209. The whole BH209 and RUM craze started with a compensated writer who tried it and found out it would ignite in the RUM. I have documentation in email from Western discussing BH209 charges in both the RUM and UF rifles. Its much different than what you see written, believe me.</p><p></p><p>So in reality, you answered your own question by the post from Western. Its 120grs volume. But the issue remains the same..... Remington doesn't list it as an approved propellant. Their advertisements show pellets. The original patent holder designed the ignition system to immediately and fully ignite pellets. Will it ignite BP, pyrodex, T7 both loose and pellets? Yes. </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 1356584, member: 33046"] [I]"All of the Blackhorn 209 loads we developed were made to match the performance of [B][U]three pellets of Triple 7 propellant[/U][/B], not in pressure, but in velocity. With its slower pressure curve, Blackhorn 209 typically develops higher velocity at lower pressures than other black powder or black powder substitutes. None of the loads, which are typically between 80 and 120 grains by volume, produced more than 25,000 psi in our test barrels. All of the 120 grain loads produced velocity comparable to, or greater than [B][U]three fifty-grain pellets[/U][/B] using the same bullet."[/I] Notice what Western tried to match???? Why???? Remington DOES NOT list BH209 as an approved BP substitute. So because its not listed to NOT shoot, that means that it can be shot? The manual may have changed since the listing I posted, but look at the last paragraph on that page. Western has done testing with the RUM and BH209. The whole BH209 and RUM craze started with a compensated writer who tried it and found out it would ignite in the RUM. I have documentation in email from Western discussing BH209 charges in both the RUM and UF rifles. Its much different than what you see written, believe me. So in reality, you answered your own question by the post from Western. Its 120grs volume. But the issue remains the same..... Remington doesn't list it as an approved propellant. Their advertisements show pellets. The original patent holder designed the ignition system to immediately and fully ignite pellets. Will it ignite BP, pyrodex, T7 both loose and pellets? Yes. [I][/I] [/QUOTE]
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