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Hunting scope season - the best of the cheapest?
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<blockquote data-quote="HSmithTX" data-source="post: 2600730" data-attributes="member: 121677"><p>I've shot Leupold VX2, VX-3 and VX3-LR to the point that they wouldn't hold zero and I had to send them in. The VX-2 on a hard kicking short barrel 284, the VX3 x2, one on a 280 and one on a 7RM, the VX3-LR on a heavy puppy of a 308 after a short brutal career in 3 gun. None of them made it to 1000 rounds. A couple of them didn't make 600 rounds. The 'abuse' on all but the one used in 3 gun I would consider normal hunting use, not abused in any way. Each time I boxed it up and sent it with a letter inside stating the issues. Each time within 4-5 weeks (maybe even 3 weeks?) I got it back completely repaired, the VX2 and the VX3-LR both had to have the erector sets replaced completely, and the VX2 got some new glass somewhere in it, I don't remember. The VX2 cost me a deer when it failed. So for those suggesting that Leupold are somehow tough I know better. For the price point they are bright, clear and light. But they aren't tough. I have beaten the absolute shizzz out of several of the $69-89 whatever Burris 3-9 scopes given to me or that came on cheap combo rifles, I mean I have beaten them like they were a throwaway piece because they are, and all 3 still adjust as they should and hold zero. At least two of them are always mounted and zero'd ready to go on loaner rifles for youth hunts or neighbor kids or whatever comes up. Name and/or price point have little to do with how tough a scope is sometimes. </p><p></p><p>The SWFA fixed power scopes are some of the most affordable 'quality' scopes out there and nearly impossible to break. If in the OP position I would be VERY hard pressed to not buy one in 6 or 8 or maybe even 10 power and forget it about any worries. </p><p></p><p>Lots of the old Burris and Redfield domestically made fixed power scopes are fantastic, decent glass and dead solid. Some of the old Japan Tasco fixed power are also really solid. Glenfield right there in the mix but if I recall correctly they might actually be Redfield with a different logo on them?</p><p></p><p>To my thinking a fixed power scope is always going to be tougher and less problematic than a variable, stay within brands and maybe even price points and I would double down on that thought. Instead of buying a cheap or even a semi OK 3-9 I would recommend the guy that hunts one weekend a year with a wally world rifle and wally world ammo get a decent fixed 4x scope and call it a day. He really shouldn't be shooting far enough to need more than 4x.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HSmithTX, post: 2600730, member: 121677"] I've shot Leupold VX2, VX-3 and VX3-LR to the point that they wouldn't hold zero and I had to send them in. The VX-2 on a hard kicking short barrel 284, the VX3 x2, one on a 280 and one on a 7RM, the VX3-LR on a heavy puppy of a 308 after a short brutal career in 3 gun. None of them made it to 1000 rounds. A couple of them didn't make 600 rounds. The 'abuse' on all but the one used in 3 gun I would consider normal hunting use, not abused in any way. Each time I boxed it up and sent it with a letter inside stating the issues. Each time within 4-5 weeks (maybe even 3 weeks?) I got it back completely repaired, the VX2 and the VX3-LR both had to have the erector sets replaced completely, and the VX2 got some new glass somewhere in it, I don't remember. The VX2 cost me a deer when it failed. So for those suggesting that Leupold are somehow tough I know better. For the price point they are bright, clear and light. But they aren't tough. I have beaten the absolute shizzz out of several of the $69-89 whatever Burris 3-9 scopes given to me or that came on cheap combo rifles, I mean I have beaten them like they were a throwaway piece because they are, and all 3 still adjust as they should and hold zero. At least two of them are always mounted and zero'd ready to go on loaner rifles for youth hunts or neighbor kids or whatever comes up. Name and/or price point have little to do with how tough a scope is sometimes. The SWFA fixed power scopes are some of the most affordable 'quality' scopes out there and nearly impossible to break. If in the OP position I would be VERY hard pressed to not buy one in 6 or 8 or maybe even 10 power and forget it about any worries. Lots of the old Burris and Redfield domestically made fixed power scopes are fantastic, decent glass and dead solid. Some of the old Japan Tasco fixed power are also really solid. Glenfield right there in the mix but if I recall correctly they might actually be Redfield with a different logo on them? To my thinking a fixed power scope is always going to be tougher and less problematic than a variable, stay within brands and maybe even price points and I would double down on that thought. Instead of buying a cheap or even a semi OK 3-9 I would recommend the guy that hunts one weekend a year with a wally world rifle and wally world ammo get a decent fixed 4x scope and call it a day. He really shouldn't be shooting far enough to need more than 4x..... [/QUOTE]
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