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Help: New shooter looking for decent rifle
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<blockquote data-quote="Outlaw6.0" data-source="post: 507960" data-attributes="member: 23486"><p>My father has a Vanguard/Howa in .243, it's a great shooter for sure & has some nice features.</p><p> </p><p>Lets break it down a little, not in any particular order:</p><p> </p><p>1) Remington 700 LA/SA= Good usable action, decent trigger & generally accuate, the stock is terrible & needs to be replaced, every aftermarket part imaginable.</p><p> </p><p>2) Savage 110/10- 112/12= Generally doesn't need to be "trued" due to the action design (read cost savings), the trigger (for me) has been great if you can get used to it. Well known for "out of the box" accuracy, can be re-barreled at home (with proper tools), well priced rifle for the performance. Bolt lift is somewhat stiffer than Remmies ($8.00 fix), I don't really like the extractors but they work ok.</p><p> </p><p>3) Howa 1500= Great extractor, good action/barrel, OK trigger. Aftermarket is somewhat lacking but catching up as fast as can be expected. IMHO it's kinda like an extra wheel, we've already got Rem, Win, WBY, Savage & a plethora of established custom actions... why bother with the new kid on the block? anywho.....</p><p> </p><p>4) Win 70= Great action (CRF), very strong, ok triggers, don't know about their barrels. pretty pricy (YMMV) for a beginner (I don't have a lot of experience here).</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Do a LOT of reading here, there is a TON of great information on this topic. All of the above can be had in nearly any cartridge combo imaginable so it's up to you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Outlaw6.0, post: 507960, member: 23486"] My father has a Vanguard/Howa in .243, it's a great shooter for sure & has some nice features. Lets break it down a little, not in any particular order: 1) Remington 700 LA/SA= Good usable action, decent trigger & generally accuate, the stock is terrible & needs to be replaced, every aftermarket part imaginable. 2) Savage 110/10- 112/12= Generally doesn't need to be "trued" due to the action design (read cost savings), the trigger (for me) has been great if you can get used to it. Well known for "out of the box" accuracy, can be re-barreled at home (with proper tools), well priced rifle for the performance. Bolt lift is somewhat stiffer than Remmies ($8.00 fix), I don't really like the extractors but they work ok. 3) Howa 1500= Great extractor, good action/barrel, OK trigger. Aftermarket is somewhat lacking but catching up as fast as can be expected. IMHO it's kinda like an extra wheel, we've already got Rem, Win, WBY, Savage & a plethora of established custom actions... why bother with the new kid on the block? anywho..... 4) Win 70= Great action (CRF), very strong, ok triggers, don't know about their barrels. pretty pricy (YMMV) for a beginner (I don't have a lot of experience here). Do a LOT of reading here, there is a TON of great information on this topic. All of the above can be had in nearly any cartridge combo imaginable so it's up to you. [/QUOTE]
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