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<blockquote data-quote="Turpentine21" data-source="post: 2937159" data-attributes="member: 124909"><p>I use the AGM Adder TS 50 - 384. I can identify deer out to 800 yards easily. Have made kills out to 425 yards with 6.5 Grendel and 308 ARs easily as long as I have the range. It would work fine on my 6.5-06 as this rifle weighs almost 14 pounds and soaks up recoil. Battery life is around 13 hours. I prefer using the Grendel with it as I get better video and can remain on target better with Grendel level recoil. The only issue is that it says it will only withstand 308 level recoil. The Adder line looks more like a traditional rifle scope which I prefer.</p><p> If you are looking for a scope that will handle higher recoil and also give you long ID distances take a look at Pulsar. Some of their lineup also has the traditional riflescope shape which I prefer. Pulsar also has models with a built in rangefinder which comes in very handy at night. It is very hard to almost impossible to judge distance at night. I really wish my Adder had rangefinder capabilities. If I had had more cash at the time I would have gone with the Pulsar with rangefinder capabilities. Take a good look at specs when dealing with these scopes. You want to compare recognition, and identification distances for many models. Being a noobie,I almost made the mistake of purchasing a scope recommended to me by many hog hunters in my area. Problem is that they normally are shooting at 100 yards or less. What worked for them would not have served my purposes at all.</p><p>Be aware also that thermal scopes work very differently than traditional scopes as far as magnification and zoom are concerned. As you increase magnification with thermal your image will become grainy and in some instances can be completely unusable at the higher zoom levels. My scope base magnification is 4 and it goes up to 32. I spend 95% or more of my time at 4 as it is the clearest and gives me the best detail. Reticle MOA and Mrad settings are calibrated at 4 as well and I use that zoom rate to 450 yards or more on the Adder. 8 is usable. 16 becomes very grainy. I don't really find anything over 16 to be usable.</p><p>Color palettes also make a world of difference. Many folks seem to like black hot. It may be my eyes but I only find black hot useful in areas with little cover such as fields with low stubble. White hot for me is about the same. For quick easy pickup, identification, and hunting I use red hot about 99% of the time. With red hot heat signatures stand out like a neon sign. Areas of the body with higher heat just light up bright red. The eyes, neck, and vital areas in particular. This really aids in identification of the vitals and shot placement.</p><p> Of course there are more brands of scopes. But I know very little about them. I'm familiar somewhat with ATN but didn't care for the battery life and their reviews vary greatly. I picked the best warranty. But sacrificed the ability to go with higher recoil calibers. That really wasn't a priority for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Turpentine21, post: 2937159, member: 124909"] I use the AGM Adder TS 50 - 384. I can identify deer out to 800 yards easily. Have made kills out to 425 yards with 6.5 Grendel and 308 ARs easily as long as I have the range. It would work fine on my 6.5-06 as this rifle weighs almost 14 pounds and soaks up recoil. Battery life is around 13 hours. I prefer using the Grendel with it as I get better video and can remain on target better with Grendel level recoil. The only issue is that it says it will only withstand 308 level recoil. The Adder line looks more like a traditional rifle scope which I prefer. If you are looking for a scope that will handle higher recoil and also give you long ID distances take a look at Pulsar. Some of their lineup also has the traditional riflescope shape which I prefer. Pulsar also has models with a built in rangefinder which comes in very handy at night. It is very hard to almost impossible to judge distance at night. I really wish my Adder had rangefinder capabilities. If I had had more cash at the time I would have gone with the Pulsar with rangefinder capabilities. Take a good look at specs when dealing with these scopes. You want to compare recognition, and identification distances for many models. Being a noobie,I almost made the mistake of purchasing a scope recommended to me by many hog hunters in my area. Problem is that they normally are shooting at 100 yards or less. What worked for them would not have served my purposes at all. Be aware also that thermal scopes work very differently than traditional scopes as far as magnification and zoom are concerned. As you increase magnification with thermal your image will become grainy and in some instances can be completely unusable at the higher zoom levels. My scope base magnification is 4 and it goes up to 32. I spend 95% or more of my time at 4 as it is the clearest and gives me the best detail. Reticle MOA and Mrad settings are calibrated at 4 as well and I use that zoom rate to 450 yards or more on the Adder. 8 is usable. 16 becomes very grainy. I don't really find anything over 16 to be usable. Color palettes also make a world of difference. Many folks seem to like black hot. It may be my eyes but I only find black hot useful in areas with little cover such as fields with low stubble. White hot for me is about the same. For quick easy pickup, identification, and hunting I use red hot about 99% of the time. With red hot heat signatures stand out like a neon sign. Areas of the body with higher heat just light up bright red. The eyes, neck, and vital areas in particular. This really aids in identification of the vitals and shot placement. Of course there are more brands of scopes. But I know very little about them. I'm familiar somewhat with ATN but didn't care for the battery life and their reviews vary greatly. I picked the best warranty. But sacrificed the ability to go with higher recoil calibers. That really wasn't a priority for me. [/QUOTE]
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