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<blockquote data-quote="Chas1" data-source="post: 386896" data-attributes="member: 15738"><p>Bigbuck,</p><p></p><p>I'm pretty much a novice on the subject of bows so assuming a Mathews Bow is similiar to the crossbows I've seen in a few sporting goods stores and which I've only shot once then I'd say yes to training. Albeit it may be similar in nature to the training my son got when he was going to use my lawn mower for the first time. Took a few minutes of my time to cover do's and don't's, safety, what each lever control operates etc. Whether it's a firearm, crossbow, mower, car, boat, chainsaw and the list goes on I think training before operating makes sense. </p><p></p><p>If the issue of training gives you the impression I have one foot in and one foot out then I'm at a loss as to why you have that impression. That's your opinion and I respect it and your right to have it.</p><p></p><p>With respect to the angry employee work scenario. The subject is a concealed firearm so why BB goes to his car to get it is a little off but, I get your point. Both you and I can come up with examples where maybe Billy Bob saved the day or on the otherhand by accident ended someone's day. The examples back and forth could go on forever with neither one of us agreeing on yes or no to training. So we disagree. I wouldn't hand a loaded firearm over to someone untrained. And no I've never handed a compound bow to someone that was untrained, I never owned one. </p><p></p><p>bigbuck you wrote: </p><p></p><p><em>"Lastly, why should an individual even be able to buy a weapon of any kind until he has had the "proper training" ? See the point is your view will never stop it will just grow into something that is not 2nd AMENDMENT."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>If your implying that's my point of view, then that's your perception but, not what I've wriiten. I haven't advocated any government mandatory training prior to buying a firearm. Do I think an individual should be trained before ever holding a firearm...you bet so does the NRA that's why they offer for example (right from their website) "<u>The Home Safety Firearm Coarse" which covers the following: A four-hour course for safe gun handling that is conducted in the classroom only. Students are taught NRA's three rules for safe gun handling; <strong>primary causes of firearms accidents</strong>; firearm parts; how to unload certain action types; ammunition components; cleaning; care; safe storage of firearms in the home.</u> </p><p></p><p>As far as one leg on each side of the fence then I guess I got company with the NRA and all it's members. I suppose it's possible but, do you really expect anyone to believe that you never ever introduced someone to the world of firearms and before handing them a loaded or for that matter an unloaded weapon that you didn't train them you simply did no training and handed them a loaded firearm and said figure it out yourself. Oh and better yet they just stuffed it under there shirt (now concealed) and went off to play with your kids in the backyard. I've seen you post here and there on LRH and you seem to be a pretty level headed guy so I'm guessing you wouldn't but that doesn't mean I think you got one leg on each side of the fence.</p><p></p><p>I intentionally wrote I fully support the 2nd amendment in hopes of letting folks know where I stand so as to avoid a ****ing contest with someone/s that wants to read more into what was written in the post and/or jump to conclusions etc as is often the case with emotionally charged subjects.</p><p></p><p>Chas</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chas1, post: 386896, member: 15738"] Bigbuck, I'm pretty much a novice on the subject of bows so assuming a Mathews Bow is similiar to the crossbows I've seen in a few sporting goods stores and which I've only shot once then I'd say yes to training. Albeit it may be similar in nature to the training my son got when he was going to use my lawn mower for the first time. Took a few minutes of my time to cover do's and don't's, safety, what each lever control operates etc. Whether it's a firearm, crossbow, mower, car, boat, chainsaw and the list goes on I think training before operating makes sense. If the issue of training gives you the impression I have one foot in and one foot out then I'm at a loss as to why you have that impression. That's your opinion and I respect it and your right to have it. With respect to the angry employee work scenario. The subject is a concealed firearm so why BB goes to his car to get it is a little off but, I get your point. Both you and I can come up with examples where maybe Billy Bob saved the day or on the otherhand by accident ended someone's day. The examples back and forth could go on forever with neither one of us agreeing on yes or no to training. So we disagree. I wouldn't hand a loaded firearm over to someone untrained. And no I've never handed a compound bow to someone that was untrained, I never owned one. bigbuck you wrote: [I]"Lastly, why should an individual even be able to buy a weapon of any kind until he has had the "proper training" ? See the point is your view will never stop it will just grow into something that is not 2nd AMENDMENT." [/I] If your implying that's my point of view, then that's your perception but, not what I've wriiten. I haven't advocated any government mandatory training prior to buying a firearm. Do I think an individual should be trained before ever holding a firearm...you bet so does the NRA that's why they offer for example (right from their website) "[U]The Home Safety Firearm Coarse" which covers the following: A four-hour course for safe gun handling that is conducted in the classroom only. Students are taught NRA’s three rules for safe gun handling; [B]primary causes of firearms accidents[/B]; firearm parts; how to unload certain action types; ammunition components; cleaning; care; safe storage of firearms in the home.[/U] As far as one leg on each side of the fence then I guess I got company with the NRA and all it's members. I suppose it's possible but, do you really expect anyone to believe that you never ever introduced someone to the world of firearms and before handing them a loaded or for that matter an unloaded weapon that you didn't train them you simply did no training and handed them a loaded firearm and said figure it out yourself. Oh and better yet they just stuffed it under there shirt (now concealed) and went off to play with your kids in the backyard. I've seen you post here and there on LRH and you seem to be a pretty level headed guy so I'm guessing you wouldn't but that doesn't mean I think you got one leg on each side of the fence. I intentionally wrote I fully support the 2nd amendment in hopes of letting folks know where I stand so as to avoid a ****ing contest with someone/s that wants to read more into what was written in the post and/or jump to conclusions etc as is often the case with emotionally charged subjects. Chas [/QUOTE]
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