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<blockquote data-quote="dfanonymous" data-source="post: 2697764" data-attributes="member: 97050"><p>That's the problem. I question what a reasonably trained person is. Especially on here, where you can't teach old dogs new tricks. I have more experience in mountain medicine the average person and this thread is ridiculous. You don't need the house and the whole kitchen sink with you. If you're in the woods 2 ft from your house then this thread isn't for you.</p><p>If your right next to you car the whole time, then sure. I guess. If you're doing sustained hiking….no….</p><p></p><p>I agree with what you're saying.</p><p></p><p>You can <strong>try</strong>, there's no harm, but if we are talking about reality…..it's not going to help in most cases involving adults. So yes. You while you doing your thing…just know… there's an extremely large chance you're working on a dead man.</p><p></p><p>Especially since the benefits of compressions only are just "better than nothing…"</p><p>Like, not great chances, not absolute chances, not even 50/50 chances…</p><p></p><p><strong>A</strong> <strong>LOW probability </strong>that compressions alone help. Compressions act as a heart beat, and breath acts as their breath to oxygenate the blood. If they went into cardiac arrest, you won't have access to lido, vasopressin, no crash cart, and again no one hikes with an AED in real life. Only on the internet.</p><p></p><p>In the example of the person who has a heart problem, hunting with a partner, is going to bring a AED, then they might as well bring nitro…because that's more useful then doing CPR in the backcountry. And a inreach. Or stay home…..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dfanonymous, post: 2697764, member: 97050"] That’s the problem. I question what a reasonably trained person is. Especially on here, where you can’t teach old dogs new tricks. I have more experience in mountain medicine the average person and this thread is ridiculous. You don’t need the house and the whole kitchen sink with you. If you’re in the woods 2 ft from your house then this thread isn’t for you. If your right next to you car the whole time, then sure. I guess. If you’re doing sustained hiking….no…. I agree with what you’re saying. You can [B]try[/B], there’s no harm, but if we are talking about reality…..it’s not going to help in most cases involving adults. So yes. You while you doing your thing…just know… there’s an extremely large chance you’re working on a dead man. Especially since the benefits of compressions only are just “better than nothing…” Like, not great chances, not absolute chances, not even 50/50 chances… [B]A[/B] [B]LOW probability [/B]that compressions alone help. Compressions act as a heart beat, and breath acts as their breath to oxygenate the blood. If they went into cardiac arrest, you won’t have access to lido, vasopressin, no crash cart, and again no one hikes with an AED in real life. Only on the internet. In the example of the person who has a heart problem, hunting with a partner, is going to bring a AED, then they might as well bring nitro…because that’s more useful then doing CPR in the backcountry. And a inreach. Or stay home….. [/QUOTE]
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